She actually reminds me a little of what they used for the cover of the computer game, The Kobayashi Alternative.
It looks to me to be about a 50% increase in the Enterprise but no more, which is around 450m in total give or take, it should be enough so that it doesn't look like a minnow next to the Discovery when we see them next to each other from above or the side.It's not bad, but it's pretty much indistinguishable from all the fan made renders we've been posting. It lacks the uniqueness of the 2009 movie incarnation.
It's based on the series version of the ship rather than the pilot version, with the smaller deflector dish and no spires on the nacelles. The proportions and detailing is right off of the TMP ship, but in DSC grimdark.
Oh yeah, and it's comparative in size to the 750 meter long USS Discovery. And this isn't a reboot how? Was the USS Enterprise blasted with a shrinking ray between now and "The Man Trap"?![]()
It's not entirely based on the series version. It's got the pilot grilles on the ends of the nacelles instead of the spheres. Bussard spikes would have been nice to include, but I don't mind their absence too much. It's a visual reboot.It's not bad, but it's pretty much indistinguishable from all the fan made renders we've been posting. It lacks the uniqueness of the 2009 movie incarnation.
It's based on the series version of the ship rather than the pilot version, with the smaller deflector dish and no spires on the nacelles. The proportions and detailing is right off of the TMP ship, but in DSC grimdark.
Oh yeah, and it's comparative in size to the 750 meter long USS Discovery. And this isn't a reboot how? Was the USS Enterprise blasted with a shrinking ray between now and "The Man Trap"?![]()
I'm not totally sure I'm ready for that, but we'll see. If the casting is just right, it could be a lot of fun.And if the rumors hold true, it's a wonderful start to a possible spinoff series about Pike's Enterprise!
In other words, a reboot.It's a visual reboot.
If that's how you see it, I'm okay with that.In other words, a reboot.
In other words, a reboot.
And if the rumors hold true, it's a wonderful start to a possible spinoff series about Pike's Enterprise!
- It was to be expected that, unlike Star Trek Enterprise, Discovery would not respect the look of the original USS Enterprise NCC-1701. Their Enterprise is described as an "olive branch to fans concerned about old-school canon". Well, I am such a fan, and to me it is a further slap in the face. Like everything else that the producers deemed dated, the ship was redesigned to fit with the reimagination dictate of the series. The basic proportions of the Constitution class are roughly the same as they were in "The Cage" or in TOS. The shapes of the saucer, the engineering hull and the nacelles were modified to be more streamlined. The bridge, the shuttlebay region, the impulse engines, the nacelle pylons and the aft ends of the nacelles are totally different now. Shiny and heavily structured plating was added all over the hull. I'm not saying the ship looks bad now, but the radically different appearance is a further sign that the makers of the series don't care for the assets of Star Trek (let alone for old-school fans). And it is the final nail in the coffin, regarding a possible reconciliation of the reboot ships of Discovery with the existing Starfleet design lineage from TOS to ENT (which, unlike the Klingon redesign, was not a totally hopeless case so far). If not even the Constitution class looks the way it would have to, why should any other ship in the series? Why should I even bother to make up explanations for angular nacelles if there are much more obvious obstacles for the Discovery ships to fit in? I will take care of the Discovery ships in the future. But TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT designs will have precedence in cases of contradictions because they came first and they respected each other. The "new" Constitution class is exemplary in this regard. As far as I am concerned, it has no right to exist outside the Discoveryverse.
Well they ignored the Klingon Augment Virus. That's a huge event that totally shaped the way we saw Klingons in the TOS era. We didn't see a single one, among any representative of the Klingon houses or on Kronos - and when we did have a Klingon posing as a human, it was done through horrific surgery and not a simple injection which causes tingling and then dissolving of the ridges.People, places, events, dates, are not rebooted.
The way those people, places, events look are rebooted.
It's been hinted here and there, and so far I just consider it a rumor only. But should they do it, I would love to see it! How does Pike interact with the Klingons? What was the Priority One distress call about? There are so many things I'd love to see from the Pike years.Really? I didn't know they were considering that. I would show up for that!
It's interesting. He had a mega meltdown in 2001 over Enterprise, but now it's as acceptable as TOS and TNG. Give it another 17 years and Discovery will be fine. He'll be complaining about the redesigned Shenzhou in Star Trek: Challenger.I was waiting all day for this...
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/episodes/dis1.htm#willyoutakemyhand
Has no right to exist? el oh el. I like the end, it almost devolves into some kind of existential crisis. "If the Enterprise can be redesigned, does anything really matter anymore?"
IMO, I'm glad they veered away from the Augment virus. It was a weak retcon to me.Well they ignored the Klingon Augment Virus. That's a huge event that totally shaped the way we saw Klingons in the TOS era. We didn't see a single one, among any representative of the Klingon houses or on Kronos - and when we did have a Klingon posing as a human, it was done through horrific surgery and not a simple injection which causes tingling and then dissolving of the ridges.
What sense does that make (especially since they leant heavily on "In a Mirror, Darkly" which came just a couple of episodes later)??
But by default is cannot be the same universe as those huge, wide-ranging events if they ignored them. Amirite?IMO, I'm glad they veered away from the Augment virus. It was a weak retcon to me.
Such weird sense of ownership...it makes no sense.I was waiting all day for this...
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/episodes/dis1.htm#willyoutakemyhand
Has no right to exist? el oh el. I like the end. It almost devolves into some kind of existential crisis. "If the nacelles look different, does anything really matter anymore?" Such passion. Such drama. Such anal retentiveness. Gods, I love this fandom.
I'm going for option C: entertaining.Indeed. If you want to call it a reboot, that's cool. The big design changes supports that. Officially it's not, so equally you can go with that.
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