Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

[cooleddie74]

 

[fireproof78]

ENT is Prime.

Trust me-not worth it.

As to the OP, yes it is Prime.

 

[dahj]

I've watched all of TNG and the NX-01 isn't mentioned once.

It's in The Pegasus deleted scenes.

 

[Tuskin38]

I've watched all of TNG and the NX-01 isn't mentioned once.

Neither was Kirk's disappearance

 

[Nerys Myk]

I've watched all of TNG and the NX-01 isn't mentioned once.

A lot things aren't mentioned in TNG. Why would one conclude that makes them non-existent?

 

[fireproof78]

Neither was Kirk's disappearance

To further complicate things, Scotty apparently thinks that Kirk is using the Enterprise to find him, even after seeing him get sucked out in to space.

So, is "Relics" or "Generations" not canon?

A lot things aren't mentioned in TNG. Why would one conclude that makes them non-existent?

Because of hatred for Enterprise.

 

[dahj]

So, is "Relics" or "Generations" not canon?

It's Scotty's penchant for strong spirits that's canon...

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's Scotty's penchant for strong spirits that's canon...

...it's green.

 

[fireproof78]

It's Scotty's penchant for strong spirits that's canon...

Yeah, I'd drink heavily after "Generations" too.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yeah, I'd drink heavily after "Generations" too.

And there was that blow to the head in The Final Frontier.

 

[Krandor]

A lot things aren't mentioned in TNG. Why would one conclude that makes them non-existent?

because they want to complain about canon.

 

[Annorax849]

It is kind of sad that the most hated episode ever is the linchpin in the argument of what is and isn't in the Prime timeline, but you're right. TATV eliminates the possibility that ENT is in a divergent timeline, which is a shame, in my view. Most if not all of the contradictions and continuity issues with ENT can easily be explained by that theory, even why the ship was called Enterprise. But it wasn't to be. One more thing TATV ruined. This is why we can't have nice things in divergent timelines.

TATV implies heavily, in that case, that ST:FC was a predestination paradox - that the events in Montana had always gone down that way in Trek history.

I've always just kind of assumed that everything we see in ENT except for "Regeneration" is in the "original" timeline. FC only changes that one episode (yes, I realize that defies the butterfly effect)

 

[fireproof78]

because they want to complain about canon.

And reject those things they don't like.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I've always just kind of assumed that everything we see in ENT except for "Regeneration" is in the "original" timeline. FC only changes that one episode (yes, I realize that defies the butterfly effect)

I've just assumed that everything in Star Trek is transitory accumulated backstory and should be treated as such. It's modular and mailable and subject to change at any time.

 

[lawman]

Enterprise is in the same Prime continuity as TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY. Sorry, but the "Enterprise is in a completely different timeline created by the events in First Contact" theory just doesn't wash and never will.

This is all a tangent about a whole other series, of course... but FWIW I'm very partial to that theory. The events of First Contact changed human (and UFP) history such that the events of ENT took place. Any and all depictions of Star Trek prior to the release of FC in 1996 were of a reality in which the events of ENT had never taken place; any and all depictions of Star Trek subsequent to 1996 were of a reality in which the events of ENT had always taken place. (This includes the framing sequence in "TATV," since obviously the timeline was altered from 2063 forward, not just 2373 forward.)

 

[Tuskin38]

Or the events just always happened but were never mentioned, a predestination paradox.

 

[PixelMagic]

I've just assumed that everything in Star Trek is transitory accumulated backstory and should be treated as such. It's modular and mailable and subject to change at any time.

Who cares about being entertained though? The point of a TV show is to PRESERVE MUH CANON, not entertain!

 

[cooleddie74]

It's in The Pegasus deleted scenes.

That's what the Temporal Cold War agents want you to believe.

 

[Annorax849]

I've just assumed that everything in Star Trek is transitory accumulated backstory and should be treated as such. It's modular and mailable and subject to change at any time.

Yes, I realize that. I was simply sharing a bit of head canon.

 

[fireproof78]

Who cares about being entertained though? The point of a TV show is to PRESERVE MUH CANON, not entertain!

And share "GENE'S VISION!!!!"

Boy, for a show that promoted desegregation and the "human journey" this fan base can sure be segregated...O_o