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Technically, there will be a "Shazam" costume to complain about. I'm just curious to see how grim dark and edgy it is. I'm assuming some spiked shoulder pads and a couple of machetes as extra gear. Maybe some puches if they feel like going the Liefeld route.
Technically, there will be a "Shazam" costume to complain about. I'm just curious to see how grim dark and edgy it is. I'm assuming some spiked shoulder pads and a couple of machetes as extra gear. Maybe some puches if they feel like going the Liefeld route.
I have no optimism. I may love Wonder Woman and actually liked Justice League, but this is the DCEU. It took them three movies to get Superman even remotely right, and that probably only happened because the guy who writes him like a broody murderer left the project. Add to that the fact that the guy who created the little piece of shit that is the New 52 "Shazam" is helping run the DCEU and there is a better chance of Sony's Venom not being total shit then there is of "Shazam" not being the single worst DC movie ever produced.
Even DC Comics hasn't published a good Captain Marvel story since 2009ish, and the DCEU people are even worse then that, since at least DC Comics only had Geoff Johns around to actively try to ruin Captain Marvel. The DCEU has Johns and a bunch of executives who try as hard as they can to hire the absolute worst people to make their movies. There is no Patty Jenkins to save my favorite superhero, and add to that the fact that they cast the wimpy asshole who played Chuck as "Shazam" and the movie is guaranteed to be the worst pile of crap DC has produced, at least for me. Even if it manages to not be quite as incompetent as BvS, Captain Marvel is my favorite hero. A "Shazam" film being junk is worse for me then a Batman vs Superman movie being complete shit.
I have no optimism. I may love Wonder Woman and actually liked Justice League, but this is the DCEU. It took them three movies to get Superman even remotely right, and that probably only happened because the guy who writes him like a broody murderer left the project. Add to that the fact that the guy who created the little piece of shit that is the New 52 "Shazam" is helping run the DCEU and there is a better chance of Sony's Venom not being total shit then there is of "Shazam" not being the single worst DC movie ever produced.
Even DC Comics hasn't published a good Captain Marvel story since 2009ish, and the DCEU people are even worse then that, since at least DC Comics only had Geoff Johns around to actively try to ruin Captain Marvel. The DCEU has Johns and a bunch of executives who try as hard as they can to hire the absolute worst people to make their movies. There is no Patty Jenkins to save my favorite superhero, and add to that the fact that they cast the wimpy asshole who played Chuck as "Shazam" and the movie is guaranteed to be the worst pile of crap DC has produced, at least for me. Even if it manages to not be quite as incompetent as BvS, Captain Marvel is my favorite hero. A "Shazam" film being junk is worse for me then a Batman vs Superman movie being complete shit.
It took them three movies to get Superman even remotely right, and that probably only happened because the guy who writes him like a broody murderer left the project.
I'll even give you odds, if half of the predictions you made about the movie turn out true I'll print out and wear publicly a T-Shirt that says "kirk55555 is a freaking genius!"
But if the movie doesn't come out as the "worst pile of crap ever", and you end up maybe even liking it, you'll have to print out a shirt that says "I was a complete dunce who was colossally wrong about Shazam!"
could have been really dark and his role in the story could have been much darker. Instead, we get scenes like him talking to kids, him talking to Lois at his farm and the end credit scene with Flash, along with him just being written more like Superman. That is all stuff Snyder wouldn't have done, and at least one of those scenes we know he had nothing to do with because it was a reshoot.
Basically, Superman's role in the plot would have been the same, but the characterization would have been the same dark, unheroic garbage Snyder always does. Whedon brought the elements that actually made me feel Cavill's Superman could be Superman. He's not quite there, but if his JL characterization was expanded upon I could see myself really liking Cavill in the role, which I never would have expected and sure as hell wouldn't have been the case if Snyder had full control over the movie.
I'll even give you odds, if half of the predictions you made about the movie turn out true I'll print out and wear publicly a T-Shirt that says "kirk55555 is a freaking genius!"
But if the movie doesn't come out as the "worst pile of crap ever", and you end up maybe even liking it, you'll have to print out a shirt that says "I was a complete dunce who was colossally wrong about Shazam!"
Nope. For one, some of my predictions are purposefully ridiculous (I'm sure his costume will resemble the New 52 costume, which was a downgrade from the classic one but it wasn't terrible or anything, me mentioning pouches and machetes was just a joke). For another, I know it will be crap for me, but some people could easily love it. People like BvS, which means literally anything is possible. That sure as hell doesn't make them right.
In the end, the same people who loved BvS will probably love Shazam, and that is the most damning insult I can give to Shazam. People who think Snyder's Ayn Rand inspired dumbass take on superheroes will probably love seeing the shitty little teenager shake down people he saves for money, generally refuse to do the right thing unless forced, and generally be a irredeemable asshole. that's exactly how Johns wrote "Shazam", and that's probably what will be on screen. Even if DC forces whatever moron is directing (oh yeah, a guy who has only made shitty horror films is certainly the appropriate director for the film) to tone it down, they will probably remove Johns scene of "Shazam" shaking down the first person he ever saved for money, its still going to be crap. Add to that hiring some random bad actor known for one terrible show to play "Shazam", and its a gigantic clusterfuck.
Captain Marvel is my favorite hero, and "Shazam" is my single most hated DC character. Since the movie is based on "Shazam" and not Captain marvel, and its a DCEU film, it has no chance of being good, and is basically my most hated superhero film ever.
Nope. I already know I'll hate it. So it would probably just come down to you saying its good, me saying its bad, and nothing being done about it. Its all opinion. Even if Shazam made 3 billion dollars and won every Academy Award that doesn't make it objectively good. Its like a Michael bay transformers film. Shazam could be financially successful (although thankfully that's not a given, since the general audience is starting to backlash against the DCEU stuff that isn't Wonder Woman related) but that doesn't mean its any good.
Also, I don't have a job, so I don't have enough money to go buy a shirt at a thrift store, much less print a shirt If I thought there was any chance of one of us actually winning such a bet, I'd probably say changing an Avatar or editing the signature for a month would be a better bet, but like I said its literally unwinnable. We've both pretty much made up our minds about the movie, and we're both probably right when it comes to what we like. So there is nothing to do. I'll keep defending my point and almost certainly lose my shit in ways I never have before when the movie releases, and you'll almost certainly praise it. That's just how it goes.
If I remember that pic (and I did just save it and made it avatar sized) I'll make it my avatar. I mean, the movie doesn't release until April 2019 but if I remember and if I like the movie, I'd do that.
If I remember that pic (and I did just save it and made it avatar sized) I'll make it my avatar. I mean, the movie doesn't release until April 2019 but if I remember and if I like the movie, I'd do that.
They had an arc planned out, it probably just by default had the "more like Superman" thing going on simply by virtue of the fact that it would be moving forward from the plot devices of BvS and wouldn't need to go back to any of that. In fact IIRC somewhere there is a claim to that effect ( though you likely wouldn't believe it ). And as far as the cell phone video is concerned, it's a good thing Snyder wouldn't have done that. Most people hated that. I feel like filmmakers put that kind of stuff in because they're thinking, "Everyone's on a smartphone all the time, everyone uses that stuff now, we don't want to look uncool or out of touch so the film should represent what's going on in the culture" or something along those lines. But it turns out that even though people are glued to their smartphones, they still don't like it when you start your movie with a damnable cell phone video... imagine that!
Remember, I have to actually like the movie. I won't lie about it if I do like it, but the DCEU track record isn't exactly in its favor, and I'm going to be super critical. This isn't Suicide Squad where I can enjoy it as a dumb action movie even if its an awful adaptation of the source material. Outside of a tolerable but bland appearance in a cartoon, there hasn't been a good Captain Marvel story in any media for years, even before the New 52 reboot. The chances of Shazam pulling a Wonder Woman are almost nonexistent.
In the extras for Man of Steel, Snyder says the last scene with Clark on a bike takes to a point where this Clark Kent is the Clark Kent we know. And then.... BvS came out.
If I thought there was any chance of one of us actually winning such a bet, I'd probably say changing an Avatar or editing the signature for a month would be a better bet, but like I said its literally unwinnable. We've both pretty much made up our minds about the movie, and we're both probably right when it comes to what we like. So there is nothing to do. I'll keep defending my point and almost certainly lose my shit in ways I never have before when the movie releases, and you'll almost certainly praise it. That's just how it goes.
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