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Everything Discovery has abandoned over the course of this season...

It's called flirting, not being a slut.
It's a character archetype from a certain movie. The entire scene was ripped from early 2000 frat party movies (I know I've seen enough of them) that scene literally going from beer pong, to taking someones drink, to them moving into kiss, into pushing their face away is what the sorority girl does in all these movies. I'm not calling Tilly a "slut" I'm saying, that is what that character that does that exact sequence in frat party movies is supposed to be, the slutty sorority girl character.

The worst thing about that scene was how...contemporary...it was.
This is because as I've said before, the writers and designers of Discovery don't give a shit about the setting and basically just want a modern day character drama/soap opera on a space ship. This is the same era as the cage, any person who gave a shit would have used that scene to world build, it should have been futuristic 60s style music with people in 60s futurism style clothes, but nope, they don't give a shit and even worse, the scene ends with a "THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SUPPORT DA TROOPS, HOO HAA JOIN THE US MARINES TODAY" speech.
 
This is because as I've said before, the writers and designers of Discovery don't give a shit about the setting and basically just want a modern day character drama/soap opera on a space ship. This is the same era as the cage, any person who gave a shit would have used that scene to world build, it should have been futuristic 60s style music with people in 60s futurism style clothes, but nope, they don't give a shit and even worse, the scene ends with a "THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SUPPORT DA TROOPS, HOO HAA JOIN THE US MARINES TODAY" speech.
How timeless and relatable....

By the way, GR framed Star Trek in some contemporary tropes as well. You don't have to like it, but it doesn't make DISCO bad just because of one scene.
 
By the way, GR framed Star Trek in some contemporary tropes as well. You don't have to like it, but it doesn't make DISCO bad just because of one scene.
If it was only just this one scene that showed they didn't give a shit about actually adhering to the setting they themselves placed themselves in, sure, it's just one scene. But it's the aesthetic and written presentation of the entire show.
 
The worst thing about that scene was how...contemporary...it was. One thing Trek has always been bad at doing is conveying that the future is a somewhat culturally alien place, and here people are dancing to (relatively) contemporary music and drinking from red cups. If you don't want to pay someone to come up with "future music" at least use a weird Animal Collective track or something.

As opposed to every other Trek series that only shows Classical Music or Jazz right? Oh and god forbid they have a party that actually looks and feels like a real party...

Jesus Christ.
 
If it was only just this one scene that showed they didn't give a shit about actually adhering to the setting they themselves placed themselves in, sure, it's just one scene. But it's the aesthetic and written presentation of the entire show.
Ok, you and I won't agree on this point.
 

Addressing these point-by-point...

Any sense that Micheal Burnham being raised by Vulcans meant anything regarding her personality
-- Maybe.

Any idea that Burnham had Klingon-related PTSD and/or might be a bit racist towards Klingons -- I never got the sense she has PTSD. Just remorse.

The tight narrative focus on Burnham. She used to be The Very Special Protagonist who solved everything and saved the day. Now she just leads the "A plot" each week, and is being led around by the nose by Georgiou and Lorca ATM -- At the moment.

Saru having any character traits whatsoever. He used to be a coward who was resentful towards Burnham, which was shitty characterization, but it was something. Now he's just a generic XO with no personality - only saved by Doug Jones's performance. -- He's growing into the role of having more responsibility. He's the XO instead just someone who wants to be. He does have a personality. He's a bit too stiff and proper. He's also had to cope with making harder and harder choices. Major progress that he no longer feels the need to compare himself to other Captains and has finally begun to accept Burnham.

Tilly changing from a very weird, possibly ASD character to just slightly adorkable -- She's come out of her shell maybe for the first time in her life. She probably didn't get to socialize much before and probably felt like an outsider at the Academy and probably when she was growing up. I know because I used to be like this, until college.

The mysterious black badges and floating water seen in the third episode -- Yes. That's disappeared.

The idea that Discovery is a special science ship researching all kinds of black-ops tech, rather than just the spore-drive machine -- The jury's still out on that one.

Stamets being a grumpy jerk -- He didn't like being assigned to Discovery at first. But then he found his niche. And he found Culber. That made him happy. Those make him not be a grumpy jerk anymore.

Klingons speaking in their own language with subtitles - The last time we see a Klingon ship was in "Into the Forest I Go" where it makes sense that Klingons would be speaking in subtitles because they'd be surrounded by other Klingons. We haven't had that since. So, we have the Universal Translator.

The idea that the 24 houses of the Klingon Empire were going to actually mean something -- It still might. Don't jump to conclusions. Just because Kol's ship was destroyed doesn't mean the 24 houses won't unite. Kol wasn't as important as he fancied himself to be. Plus they went out of their way to mention in "The Wolf Inside" that the Klingons uniting in the Mirror Universe might be the key to them making peace if the Klingons in the Prime Universe unite.

The "lower decks" concept. Originally Tilly was just in the show because she happened to be Burnham's roommate. Now she's doing officer-level work as a cadet just because she's a main cast member and must be doing something. Some of this can be attributed in-universe to character growth, but IMHO that's headcannon, they were trying to tweak the show as each script was finished. -- As she shows she can do more, she's being given more responsibility. That's not head-canon. That's common sense. When she graduates she'll have a leg up on other graduates who weren't doing all this. To date not much has been done with most of the bridge crew. Sure we see them, seeing them at all is about all we do. I have no idea who the bridge crew is besides what they look like. So it's still a lower decks and non-bridge crew focus.
 
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I mean seriously where do you guys come up with this nonsense? Oh it’s 2018 and they aren’t wearing 60 era future clothes....

That’s because it’s 2018!!!
 
party that actually looks and feels like a real party...
It actually really doesn't. It feels like a lazy scene copy-pasted out of crap early 00s movies. The issue also isn't that it's a party, it's that the scene didn't bother to engage in any real world building and was just lazy. The scene is possibly the only "civilian life" scene in Discovery and they did absolutely nothing interesting with it.

Ok, you and I won't agree on this point.
I legitimately don't understand how you can't agree with this point. There is absolutely nothing in Discovery that looks like The Cage era beyond like, the phasers. They didn't update the visuals of the era, they completely and totally replaced them. The Shenzhou for example literally looks like a Star Trek Online ship. You could put the Shenzhou next to any 25th century ship and you couldn't tell them apart.
 
It isn't unreasonable, IMHO.

This is set only 10 years before TOS. I would think that at least some of the styles should start looking like "60s future" style.
Some? Sure. why not? All? No, especially given how large and cosmopolitan the Federation is supposed to be.
 
Yes because god forbid Trek be allowed to grow-up, mature and adapt itself to modern audiences and storytelling techniques. The Entitlement is staggering!!

"grow-up, mature"
Discovery is literally aimed at a teenage audience. It is the single most immature Star Trek show ever made. It's just pew pew action and gore and sex.

"adapt itself to modern audiences and storytelling techniques. "
And what does this have to do with the aesthetic? We have seen this era of Star Trek before, we know the fashion and design sensibility of this era, is modernist futurism. The modernist futurist aesthetic is like, a defining part of Star Trek, it's why Star Trek has the aesthetically best Starship designs in all of Scifi.

If they don't want to adhere to the aesthetics era, why bother setting Disco in an era we've canonically seen before? I mean, in DS9, they literally comment on how fancy and fashionable the era is.

Again what many of us saying isn't unreasonable, we don't want coloured buttons and knobs, but we don't want the aesthetic of the era thrown into the bin and retconned for generic navy blue, silver scifi. Update the TOS aesthetic, take aesthetic design from modernism and bring it into the modern day.
I mean, mid 20th century modernism is like considered, the peak of contemporary design, why in fuck WOUDLN'T you want it?
 
There is this little show called Star Trek, you should watch it once in a while.

At some point, hopefully soon, you'll come to realize that antagonizing people who like something you don't and trying to change their minds about it is one of the more unproductive pursuits known to man.

You stated off acting like someone who just wanted to understand why this show appeals to Trek fans but not to you...but your attitude and behaviors are not those of someone seeking understanding.
 
I mean, mid 20th century modernism is like considered, the peak of contemporary design, why in fuck WOUDLN'T you want it?
It is? By who? I'm going to need some serious citations on this one.
but we don't want the aesthetic of the era thrown into the bin and retconned for generic navy blue, silver scifi. Update the TOS aesthetic, take aesthetic design from modernism and bring it into the modern day.
Who said it's gone forever?
 
The 60's future is already here in the modern day. ;)
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