Discovery Size Argument™ thread

[Gonzo]

If they are used in an interesting way and sparingly they could be cool
No budgeneering thou please
800 meters of sexy duranium dishing out photon torpedo sammiches to every purple and Gray Klingon in the quadrant

I can't see it being smaller than the Disco or the Shenzou, could end up being a solid bulky 600m.

If that is the case it's most likely going to be styled like the Europa was in the pilot with the same Aztec design on the hull.

Could be awesome.

 

[Tuskin38]

I wonder if they'll give the Connie those rabbits-teeth windows so they can reuse the same interior sets, a la the Shenzhou and Discovery?

What's interesting is the Shenzhou in the pilot didn't have those Rabbit teeth windows, only the Mirror one was shown to have them, at least on the exterior.

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

I think they look tough
Scales way off but oh well

 

[David cgc]

What's interesting is the Shenzhou in the pilot didn't have those Rabbit teeth windows, only the Mirror one was shown to have them, at least on the exterior.

Burnham's quarters did have the Discovery windows in the pilot, it just wasn't quite as obvious without the fly-in.

 

[Tuskin38]

Burnham's quarters did have the Discovery windows in the pilot, it just wasn't quite as obvious without the fly-in.

In the interior perhaps but not the exterior, they're oval you can see them quite clearly in the two episodes.

It's just a discrepancy between the set and the model, one they corrected in last weeks episode.

The underside bridge windows are also way too big for the set if you go by the size given by Eaglemoss.

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

Yep entire bridge module is way too big to fit the new scale.

In the interior perhaps but not the exterior, they're oval you can see them quite clearly in the two episodes.

It's just a discrepancy between the set and the model, one they corrected in last weeks episode.

The underside bridge windows are also way too big for the set if you go by the size given by Eaglemoss.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The underside bridge windows are also way too big for the set if you go by the size given by Eaglemoss.

Yep entire bridge module is way too big to fit the new scale.

The bridge set is huge, those angled windows are enormous. Here's a very very quick comparison, with a 6' Spock.

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And this cutaway which may have appeared on a turbolift screen in one of the very first episodes:

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

Well based on that,..

 

[Crazy Eddie]

You seem to be going to far reaches to claim something based of a US military branch is not in fact military.

It's not a "claim" at all, it's just a fact. I'm sorry if it bothers you, but that's not my problem.

Something on screen which they claims to be a military a dozen times and fills the role

They never claim to be a military organization, just acknowledge that they fill the role. Hell, in the same conversation where Picard explicitly says "Starfleet is not a military organization" they are DISCUSSING Starfleet's ability to fill that role and the need to get better at it.

All this because you guys can not accept a ship using a warship designation is a warship.

Calling something a "cruiser" doesn't make it a warship, as demonstrated by the fact that police departments use the same nomenclature for their own vehicles.

Significantly, the most effective combatants in Starfleet always seem to be their science and exploration vessels. This is why the Galaxy Class starship is the flagship of the 24th century fleet, and why USS Discovery -- explicitly referred to more than once as a "Science vessel" -- turned out to be one of Starfleet's most effective combatants in the Klingon War.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

The bridge set is huge, those angled windows are enormous. Here's a very very quick comparison, with a 6' Spock.

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And this cutaway which may have appeared on a turbolift screen in one of the very first episodes:

I don't know that the MSD is accurate, though, especially after "The Wolf inside" where we see a very long row of windows on the spine of the ship where Burnham's quarters are supposed to be. Add to that the fact that Saru implies the ship's brig is somewhere between decks six through nine (probably deck nine itself) which means that deck would be in the saucer section, far to the starboard side.

I mean, you would almost have to double the number of decks in this MSD to match that.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Calling something a "cruiser" doesn't make it a warship, as demonstrated by the fact that police departments use the same nomenclature for their own vehicles.

Calling a ship a cruiser, destroyer, escort and so on when they are armed to the freaking teeth and fill the role makes them what they are. We have been asked to stop and I am done with you on this as you can't be honest.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

If you want to argue that the beginning of the next gen era was not decidedly military I wouldn’t argue
I mean a show where the ship was basically covered in windows, more windows than actual hull, had a kindergarten in a very vulnerable area of the ship, kids on the bridge, all other forms of music had disappeared but classical, every last admiral was an old school librarian, crew addicted to holoporn rather than the real thing, and so on an so forth,. No argument there .

Technically this was a single brand new class. Not the fleet as a whole, it was called an "Explorer" in its classification, It was an experiment, that was pretty much dead by DS9, the Galaxies coming online and refit during the war carried troops and no longer the grand stations in space they were designed to be. The Borg/Dominion ended that "Golden" era of upbeat optimize really.

Other ships did not carry families, except for transporting them to new stations and such and that stopped after wolf 359

aren’t we supposed to be discussing the rebooted starship sizes of the Discovery era?
Can’t wait to see the slightly tweaked 800m long Connie

I am not sure the connies size, but it will be at lest the same size or larger than the Walker. Remember the Crossfield is mostly its length because of those wild pylons and nacells. She is also not built for combat as the connie, but as a science ship.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Fuck your nuance, support the troops!

It is what it is, dude. Deal with it.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

It is what it is, dude. Deal with it.

Do not change what I said.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Do not change what I said.

lol for all intents and purposes, I didn't.

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

So this mirror universe has a super star destroyer with dwarf star propulsion technology?

 

[Mirror Mirror]

So this mirror universe has a super star destroyer with dwarf star propulsion technology?

We are not sure what it is, but ya know Romulans doe use artificial black holes to power their ships. So that kinda thing is totally in the wheel house of trek

 

[STR]

She is also not built for combat as the connie, but as a science ship.

You really need to stop making stuff up and acting like it's gospel. This little statement you're trying to pass off as fact has no backing whatsoever.

At minimum, you need to preface it with "headcanon" or "speculation".

 

[Hythlodeus]

wait, the science vessel filled with scientist on what started as a science research mission is now headcanon? when did that happen?

 

[Mirror Mirror]

You really need to stop making stuff up and acting like it's gospel. This little statement you're trying to pass off as fact has no backing whatsoever.

At minimum, you need to preface it with "headcanon" or "speculation".

And you need to accept reality. Its a Heavy cruiser, that is a warship. VOY pure out stated Federation ships are built for combat. I have backed up my claims and I am not gonna derail this thread again, but you need to stop lying.