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When will the Constitution Class make an appearance?

How does this design look remotely TOS?

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It doesn't matter to me that it looks like the TOS aesthetic. For me, I just find the design work on show other than the Discovery to be bland and uninteresting.

If the Big E does show up, I hope they just use the Kelvin movie design.
 
I still don't understand the notion that a ship needs a bunch of cluttered surface-detail junk in order to look "more advanced." An elegantly smooth and seamless hull is an indicator of more futuristic and exotic design and construction, far above and beyond anything conceivable by today's methods.

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Kor
 
In fact: That's exactly what happened in Rogue One. if you think those Star Destroyers were the same ones as in A new Hope, you're wrong. The one's in A new Hope didn't have any light effects (aka "windows") and were lacking many other hull details. Those appeared the first time in Empire Strikes Back, when they created an entire new model for the standard star destroyer. Yet, the makers of Rogue One decided to use the far less detailed "New Hope" versions (there are visible differences between the two), but add so many details and hull texture that they look like they came from a newer production.
They changed a lot more than that. People forget the original New Hope star destroyers were cobbled together from old aircraft carrier model kits, among other things. The design in Rogue One literally copied the basic design from the physical model by piecing together CG parts from similar aircraft carrier kits, filled in the gaps where the physical models didn't work, and then added more detail where the original models lacked it. This included dorsal and ventral turbolasers, working hangar doors (that we never got to see) proton torpedo tubes, surface features to match the bridge windows (finally) and additional cannons on the front of the hull. They basically did for the star destroyers what TMP did for the Klingon battlecruiser.

Well it is basically the Shenzhou upside-down and with new nacelles.
People keep saying that, but the surface detail is very different. Shenzhou has various cutouts and ports for what seem to be weapons and sensors on both sides of the saucer that are absent on the Gagarin/Shepard. The aft section (what we might call the engineering section) is noticeably different as well. The ships have a very similar shape, to be sure, but they're about as similar as the Shenzhou is to the Centaur.

They won't. Wrong universe.
You never know. They still might.
 
I still don't understand the notion that a ship needs a bunch of cluttered surface-detail junk in order to look "more advanced." An elegantly smooth and seamless hull is an indicator of more futuristic and exotic design and construction, far above and beyond anything conceivable by today's methods.

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Kor

So they just have to chrome plate the thing.

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Well chrome was thing in the 50s. As were fins.

So the Connie's fins things on the nacelles would be like those on a 57 Chevy....So the (22)57 Connie will have those and be chromed.
 
They won't. Wrong universe.

Paramount and CBS have the same owner. There is nothing legally preventing them from using those uniforms and the Beyond ones would look perfect. CBS sells Beyond costumes right alongside Prime Timeline costumes on their website.
 
Paramount and CBS have the same owner. There is nothing legally preventing them from using those uniforms and the Beyond ones would look perfect. CBS sells Beyond costumes right alongside Prime Timeline costumes on their website.

It is still the wrong timeline. There is no need for them to use that design.

Plus it is too big.
 
I still don't understand the notion that a ship needs a bunch of cluttered surface-detail junk in order to look "more advanced." An elegantly smooth and seamless hull is an indicator of more futuristic and exotic design and construction, far above and beyond anything conceivable by today's methods.
Indeed. In the words of Matt Jefferies:

"I constantly had to fight anyone who wanted to put surface details on the thing."


http://ottens.co.uk/forgottentrek/designing-the-first-enterprise/

Part of his reasoning was also that all the important machinery should be accessible from inside the ship, as space is a dangerous environment for both man and equipment.

I don't know when a Connie might appear, but I would bet my wee bairns that one will, and that when it does it will look every bit as accurate to the original as in "Trials And Tribble-ations" (DS9) or "In A Mirror Darkly" (ENT), and that preserving its "special-ness" is precisely the reason for the "no round nacelle" embargo.

-MMoM:D
 
They won't. Wrong universe.
Most likely going to be same design aesthetic and texture as the Europa with a hull configuration that we all know.

I would expect the nacelles to be the same as the Europa as well rather then round as even the Shenzous considerably older design were also square rather than rounded.
 
Indeed. In the words of Matt Jefferies:

"I constantly had to fight anyone who wanted to put surface details on the thing."


http://ottens.co.uk/forgottentrek/designing-the-first-enterprise/

Part of his reasoning was also that all the important machinery should be accessible from inside the ship, as space is a dangerous environment for both man and equipment.

I don't know when a Connie might appear, but I would bet my wee bairns that one will, and that when it does it will look every bit as accurate to the original as in "Trials And Tribble-ations" (DS9) or "In A Mirror Darkly" (ENT), and that preserving its "special-ness" is precisely the reason for the "no round nacelle" embargo.

-MMoM:D
I tend to agree. I see no reason for the Constitution class to have the surface details, based upon the more minimalist approach to a lot of their technology.
 
I think it depends on a few logistical things: If the production crew has (legal) access to the Kelvin assets, I'm betting they'll just use the CG model of the Ent-A from the end of BEY as a baseline, resize it, and use Europa-style texturing.

If they have to start from scratch, then it's anyone's guess. However, outside of the "iconic" profile, I wouldn't expect it to look too much like the Jefferies original.

And, as far as the size goes. Part of me actually hopes they keep the scale similar tot he nuPrise.

I think it plays into the mistque of the ships - as in how Micheal spoke with a hint of awe to Tilly. Like Connies are these ships with a massive presence and are pride of the fleet - sort of how Iowa-class and Dreadnought-class Battleships were during WW2.
 
I think it depends on a few logistical things: If the production crew has (legal) access to the Kelvin assets, I'm betting they'll just use the CG model of the Ent-A from the end of BEY as a baseline, resize it, and use Europa-style texturing.

If they have to start from scratch, then it's anyone's guess. However, outside of the "iconic" profile, I wouldn't expect it to look too much like the Jefferies original.

And, as far as the size goes. Part of me actually hopes they keep the scale similar tot he nuPrise.

I think it plays into the mistque of the ships - as in how Micheal spoke with a hint of awe to Tilly. Like Connies are these ships with a massive presence and are pride of the fleet - sort of how Iowa-class and Dreadnought-class Battleships were during WW2.
I don't see a logistical reason for them to use the Kelvin Enterprise model as a starting point. Maybe that's just my bias, maybe just I'm missing something, but the idea that they would revisist that, rather than either put their twist on the design, or just make the most detailed Constitution model ever designed so that it fills the screen.

I think the art department will want to have their stamp on it, so using the Kelvin Enterprise as a base strikes me as odd.
 
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