Spoilers Thor: Ragnarok Grading and Discussion
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Sort of like when the Europeans landed in the Americas?
Just saw it and loved the movie, a very enjoyable movie with brilliant humour though Guardians (1) is still the king of the MCU comedy. The movie had a nice pace to it, never outstaying it's welcome and had a good soundtrack to boot though they did overuse the Led Zeppelin song just a tad.
Hulk almost stole the show again like he did back in Avengers and it was great to see a more fleshed out speaking Hulk rather than the generally silent one we've seen so far bar the odd line here & there. Valkyrie was superb too and a good replacement for Lady Sif who I did miss but I guess it means she is still alive
I read online she was banished by Loki when he was Odin though I don't recall the line in the movie (Also poor Warriors Three 
I would of liked to see a scene seeing Thor grieving over his loss comrades). Jeff Goldblum and Cate Blanchett were excellent of course but that was a no brainer given the calibre of the two actors.
I would of liked to have seen a little more Hulk in the last battle especially a quick tussle with Hela would of been nice. The last battle overall felt like it could of been a little bigger but the idea of Asgard being sacrificed was a nice unexpected twist. I presume Thor will have his eye back via magic from Doctor Strange or even Loki who could at least make it look like he has one from a cosmetic standpoint. The fall of Asgard makes Thanos mission even easier and I presume that was his ship in the mid credit scene since Loki had something of his.
B+
Thor: B
Thor - The Dark World: B-
Hulk almost stole the show again like he did back in Avengers and it was great to see a more fleshed out speaking Hulk rather than the generally silent one we've seen so far bar the odd line here & there. Valkyrie was superb too and a good replacement for Lady Sif who I did miss but I guess it means she is still alive
I read online she was banished by Loki when he was Odin though I don't recall the line in the movie (Also poor Warriors Three I would of liked to see a scene seeing Thor grieving over his loss comrades). Jeff Goldblum and Cate Blanchett were excellent of course but that was a no brainer given the calibre of the two actors.I would of liked to have seen a little more Hulk in the last battle especially a quick tussle with Hela would of been nice. The last battle overall felt like it could of been a little bigger but the idea of Asgard being sacrificed was a nice unexpected twist. I presume Thor will have his eye back via magic from Doctor Strange or even Loki who could at least make it look like he has one from a cosmetic standpoint. The fall of Asgard makes Thanos mission even easier and I presume that was his ship in the mid credit scene since Loki had something of his.
B+
Thor: B
Thor - The Dark World: B-
Oh gee . . . how clever. Not. I'm still disappointed by the ridiculous amount of humor, especially for that narrative.
Yes yes yes, I suppose we needed the entire cast executed in flames while the orchestra gives off a wall of sound that would make Hans Zimmer blush.
Saw it today - loved it! Also loved that it was preceded by trailers for Black Panther and Last Jedi.
I loved the humour - especially as it kept surprising me by getting in the way of the superhero tropes. I definitely did not expect Banner to not have turned into Hulk by the time he hit the Rainbow Bridge, but then we got the true superhero moment because just when you think all is lost, Hulk enters the battle.
I'm not sure we'll be getting another Thor movie (I hope so because I love the series, but there's been three) but in-universe, I don't think Thor has had time to process anyone's death in the fight with Hela yet, at the end of the movie he's barely had time to take a breath, and then they fly straight into Thanos's ship. Heimdall is, I think, the only one who'll be able to tell him what happened to everyone - who survived by being off-world, who didn't. I imagine there's a pub somewhere down a quiet street in London that's going to be drunk dry.
I loved the humour - especially as it kept surprising me by getting in the way of the superhero tropes. I definitely did not expect Banner to not have turned into Hulk by the time he hit the Rainbow Bridge, but then we got the true superhero moment because just when you think all is lost, Hulk enters the battle.
I'm not sure we'll be getting another Thor movie (I hope so because I love the series, but there's been three) but in-universe, I don't think Thor has had time to process anyone's death in the fight with Hela yet, at the end of the movie he's barely had time to take a breath, and then they fly straight into Thanos's ship. Heimdall is, I think, the only one who'll be able to tell him what happened to everyone - who survived by being off-world, who didn't. I imagine there's a pub somewhere down a quiet street in London that's going to be drunk dry.
Either way, she could still have done a runner prior to this. Not that I think it was ever a consideration when making this film. I'd be surprised if anyone was even aware of the character.
On a related note I thought Sif's absence was rather conspicuous. I mean they bothered to bring back the warriors three for the five seconds it took to kill them all off, so why not here too? Of course one can read into it any which way but I cant help but feel like they still want her around, even if they didn't have a role for her in this particular movie.
Given what happened to Heimdall my guess is she was exiled or sent away again on some impossible mission and perhaps she'll turn up again later.
Jaime Alexander posted a tweet some time this year that suggested she was in the film, so perhaps she did film a scene and then it was cut?
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That would make sense. Hopefully the scene will be available on DVD, if not restored to the film itself (which, unfortunately, is likely).
Ah, damn. I hadn't seen that recent follow-up. Oh, well.
I saw this this morning and I loved it, it was a lot of fun.
The humor was great, it was the funniest non-Guardians movie so far.
I've like Thor since his first movie, but I do think the funnier take we got on him here was even better than the more serious tone he had in his other appearances.
I really liked Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie, she was great. I noticed the movie never actually called her Brunnhilde, and that got me wondering if she was actually a new character rather than her. I noticed in the flashback to the deaths of the Valkyrior, that they had a pretty clear shot of a blond Valkyrie attacking Hela, and I was wondering if that was actually Brunnhilde.
Both of the villains, Grandmaster and Hela were great. I'd put both of them right up there as two of the best MCU villains so far. Hela had a nice easy to understand motivation that was able to drive things without bogging them down in the kind of over complicated plotting we sometimes get from villains.
I was a little disappointed that the Fandral and Volstagg were killed off so quick, but at least Hogun got to put up a bit more of a fight.
We got some good stuff for Banner and the Hulk here. I definitely liked getting a more intelligent and vocal Hulk.
The overall story was really good, and the new bits of history we got for Asgard and Odin were interesting. The stuff on Sakaar was a blast, and the production design for the planet was awesome. The destruction of Asgard at the end was a big surprise.
The action scenes were great, they looked cool and were able to give the hero characters standout moments, but at the same time they didn't drag on for to long.
It gets an A+ from me.
The humor was great, it was the funniest non-Guardians movie so far.
I've like Thor since his first movie, but I do think the funnier take we got on him here was even better than the more serious tone he had in his other appearances.
I really liked Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie, she was great. I noticed the movie never actually called her Brunnhilde, and that got me wondering if she was actually a new character rather than her. I noticed in the flashback to the deaths of the Valkyrior, that they had a pretty clear shot of a blond Valkyrie attacking Hela, and I was wondering if that was actually Brunnhilde.
Both of the villains, Grandmaster and Hela were great. I'd put both of them right up there as two of the best MCU villains so far. Hela had a nice easy to understand motivation that was able to drive things without bogging them down in the kind of over complicated plotting we sometimes get from villains.
I was a little disappointed that the Fandral and Volstagg were killed off so quick, but at least Hogun got to put up a bit more of a fight.
We got some good stuff for Banner and the Hulk here. I definitely liked getting a more intelligent and vocal Hulk.
The overall story was really good, and the new bits of history we got for Asgard and Odin were interesting. The stuff on Sakaar was a blast, and the production design for the planet was awesome. The destruction of Asgard at the end was a big surprise.
The action scenes were great, they looked cool and were able to give the hero characters standout moments, but at the same time they didn't drag on for to long.
It gets an A+ from me.
You're just determined to change what I'm trying to say . . . aren't you? Just to feed your agenda. Sigh! Typical.
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