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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 3

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Marc said:
I think the behaviour of Maggie's father pretty much cemented her not wanting to have kids.
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Which is both understandable and acceptable on her part. It would certainly be wrong to try to pressure her into having kids, and I didn't mean exploring the issues she has with being a parent to imply that the outcome should necessarily be for her to change her mind about it.

Parenting and the decision of whether or not to have children is very much an interesting topic, and one pertinent to feminism, to people who identify as feminists, and to pretty much everybody else besides. It's also relevant to the show overall, what with Supergirl herself being adopted and also with John Jones's loss, as well as relevant to this season's story line in particular with the metahuman single mother, and John's reunion with his dad. I'm sort of disappointed that Maggie has to be dispensed with so summarily, because I'd have to say that the more angles the subject of parenting/non-parenting is dealt with, the better, at least generally speaking.
 
Christopher said:
The Alex-Maggie breakup is both weird and interesting. It does seem arbitrary that they'd break up over this -- it was never adequately explored why Maggie was so adamantly against ever having kids -- but people are arbitrary sometimes.
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Real life tends to be arbitrary.

This resolution cane directly from the personal lives/experiences of Andrew Kreisberg and one of the show's female writers.
 
Some people, myself included, don't want kids. I could justify it by citing overpopulation, but ultimately, I just don't want the hassle of being a parent. I'm an uncle of four, probably more to come, I'm quite fine with that.
 
It's weird that they got this far into the relationship that... Now I'm assuming that the medtech in the For... Federal employees are on Obamacare (if such a thing exists on Earth 38) and homosexuals could be excluded because of assholes in congress being assholes... tress is beyond.

Kara could completely tailor her niece to a very specific laundry lists of concerns from Alex, and may not have to stick the embryo inside Alex at all, unless she wants the classic experience.

Microscopic vision/X-ray vision.

Kara holding on to Alex's hips gently manipulating Alex's fertilization by shaking her body this way and that similar to a maracca but not too dissimilarly to manipulating a carnival claw game to win a minion.

If Alex wants to be a solo mum, she could just ask for a straight clone of herself without any one else's DNA diluting her awesome sauce :)

If she does want sperm, this could be an interesting return for Maxwell Lord, since of how well they were getting along before he vanished... Winn? J'onn is her father... Jimmy is a punk. Getting Sperm from Clark would mean that Alex's kids and Kara's kids are related and share a set of great grandparents, which is less relevant than Alex taking sperm from her unfound lover's sibling, which is a thing, to keep the grandparents in line.
 
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dodge said:
I like how they've been developing Sam, on the other hand Morgan Edge is a bit of a dud, he's just an evil rich guy with no apparent motivation other than being evil. Last time at least he had something to gain by blowing up a neighborhood, but this time he tried to kill some kids just to get revenge on Lena.
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But......Darkseid.
 
The Realist said:
Putting aside the question of "How was James slighted this week?" (clearly THE central consideration in any Supergirl episode),
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He's billed as a main character, so the marginalizing of James and/or his in-story shitty treatment by Kara cannot be glossed over.

the final-act scene between Lena and James promising
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I see her trying to manipulate every angle of that "first name"/thaw moment.
 
Wow. It's become clear lately (and it's always been an open secret) that this kind of behavior is pervasive in Hollywood culture, and it could show up anywhere, but I never would've expected it from the co-showrunner of Supergirl.
 
Turtletrekker said:
Andrew Kreizsberg suspended amidst allegations of sexual misconduct.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/warner-bros-sexual-harassment-andrew-kreisberg-1202612522/
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Not a surprise in the larger sense that the entertainment business has always been filled with sexually abusive people who sell themselves as the ever-so-caring, ever-so-thoughtful, ever-so-respectful ideological left who would "never" violate others in this way (while accusing everyone else of abusive acts/behavior), but were/are among the worst offenders. No one knows where the Kreizberg story will end up in terms of destruction of victims' lives, charges, etc., but this places his series--often more social/political activism series than superhero fantasy--in a very dicey public-face position, considering the type of finger-pointing dialogue/plots used on the series so often.
 
dodge said:
In the short teaser for the crossover Alex and Sara were in the same scene... ;)
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Wasn't there supposedly a deleted scene from last year where Sara hit on Kara and Kara said "you should meet my sister."

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Mr. Adventure said:
uh-oh
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IIRC, he said he was in a relationship that he ended because his partner didn't want kids, and that the other writer had similar relationship... not that the two were in the same relationship.

I can't find the article I saw that spelled it out, but this one comes close.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/supergirl-sanvers-breakup-season-3-alex-maggie-1202607972/

I am glad that they had Alex stand up for herself in regards to her desire to have kids, and I am REALLY glad they didn't have them marry in the vain hopes Alex could "change" Maggie's mind. That type of thinking rarely works out.

Up thread someone mentioned momentarily thinking (and forgetting) during the breakup sex scene that wouldn't it be funny if Alex ended up pregnant after all... then realizing "DUH!"

I laughed because during that same scene I was thinking, "Well, at least no one has to worry about getting pregnant during their breakup sex."

As for the concern above re "the heavy foreshadowing" that Alex is going to become Ruby's foster parent, I wouldn't mind that all since all season long I have been fearful they were foreshadowing Ruby's death would be the trigger for turning Sam into the world-killer.

ETA: Again :rolleyes:
Skipping back to "The Faithful" for a second...

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^ Eh, where you see "mixed messages," I see complexity and nuance. You seem to have wanted the episode to endorse religion and faith -- which I would say it often implicitly did, by showing characters we admire and respect, like Kara and J'onn, practicing it. But the show was more interested in exploring faith than outright embracing it, and it did so with considerable intelligence and fair-handedness.
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I agree with the above and regarding the supposed "dissing of religion" when the girls laughed at Lena's story about the world leader who only slept with "good" Catholics; they weren't dissing Catholics or baptism, they were dissing the world leader's hypocrisy.

It reminds me of a comment once about the reason often given re:Spencer Tracey's 20 year affair with Katharine Hepburn. He "couldn't divorce his wife" because he was a "devout Catholic" and divorce was forbidden. The commentator scoffed at this, since he claimed had Tracey truly been a devout Catholic he wouldn't have been having the affair in the first place.
 
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Supergirl--
"Midvale"

Kara/SG: "I have to walk away from certain vulnerabilities" that's code for she will walk back toward said vulnerabilities once Metro-El shows up.next week...

Alex: "Screw everybody else. Kara knows best" The most honest reaction of the episode, though it was clear such honesty would be flicked away in favor of the "sisterhood" business.

Wait--why would Teen Alex automatically assume Kenny's laptop contained information that had a connection to his death? She had no reason to suspect anything along those lines. Contrived--as much as the "ever think about going into law enforcement" line from the crooked cop. Its almost as bad with forcing "destiny" business as the Star Wars prequels.

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In families with an adopted child, its not uncommon for the biological child to feel the other receives preferential treatment--even if the biological child is not necessarily resentful after the passing of years. On that note, present day Alex (while under the influence) certainly exhibited this kind of feeling.

Kara's friend (Kenny) not being long for the world was an all too predicable, well-worn set-up: the outsider (Kara) finds an understanding friend, but to keep the outsider drama going, the main character has to suffer tragedy, so the only way to adjust to her new life is to bond with Alex after some shared adversity.

Kenny is now part of the list of those who knew Kara's secret, but did not live to tell anyone about it.

Sooo, Samuel Bernard, the 27-year old high school teacher is molesting a minor.......

Agent Noel Neill. I bet most of the audience will not get the reference to film and TV's first Lois Lane.

GRADE: B+
Despite issues with several weak plotlines, I always have a soft spot for flashback/origin stories, and this one was pretty interesting. The series should revisit this era at some point in the future.
 
!!!OMFG THEY MENTIONED CHLOE AND THE WALL OF WEIRD!!!

Only my advanced years are keeping me from turning cartwheels right now.
 
That was an outstanding episode! I loved all the references to Superman lore. Best part was it was a stand alone episode. They did not feel the need to shoehorn in any unrelated plot lines like Reign. No twist ending. When was the last time that has happened on any show, Arrowverse or elsewhere? All good character building, the best of old school style tv writing. I wish we could see more of this on the other series.
 
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