That's not how any of this works. They didn't build a new subscription service and launched Discovery as the flagship show just to "slam" a fan film...
They slammed that thing in court.
Would Discovery's setting be better if it was after TUC?
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That's not how any of this works. They didn't build a new subscription service and launched Discovery as the flagship show just to "slam" a fan film...
They slammed that thing in court.
No, not rally. In ST: D's time there were only sporadic raids by Klingons and no formal diplomatic relations. By ST:TUC the Feds HAD direct diplomatic relations and more understanding of Klingon culture. The 'impact' and drama behind Burnham's decision in the first episode would be a lot less.
Plus, given the accord struck in TUC - you'd have audience members wondering why Kirk and Co. aren't more directly involved since they're effectively the one's who helped seal the final deal and for me, it would just be more of the TNG type Klingons with some espousing 'honor' this and 'honor' that, and wanting to keep the deal with the Federation for the evacuation of Qnos and others not. I don't care to see yet another 'Klingon Civil War' story. Just more of the same Klingons and Klingon/Federation 'politics' we've seen before.
I like the setup that ST: D allows that the Klingons are un-unified; and someone comes along and wants to re-unify the Empire and starts a war with the Federation to do it. I also don't mind the new Klingon look. The only thing that didn't work for me is the whole 'Klingon Only scenes spoken in Klingon because it hampers the actors ability to perform. The actors are more focused on just getting their lines out right then performing a full character (IMO).
It might have worked but I like the setting where it is, primeline or not.
I am digging the Sarek and Mudd backstories, with who knows what yet to come.
I am digging the Sarek and Mudd backstories, with who knows what yet to come.
Besides tech astetics, I think you would have more fringe isolationists and racists on both sides fighting to the bitter end to derail the peace process. These would fit better as alogories to what is happening in the real world today. And TUC resolved that reality too quickly. Surely more felt the same as Chang and Cartwright’s people
The self-congratulatory applause scene toward the end of TUC made it look like the Federation and the Klingons were becoming best buddies right then and there. While that would be a great conclusion to the TOS Fed/Klingon conflict, that's not how things actually turned out in-universe. There were apparently still tensions for decades, right up to the time of the Enterprise-C.
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I think they found a way to ecollogically save Q'nos and the planetary evacuation wasn't ultimately needed or completed because unless the Klingons are in the habit of renaming whatever world they would have relocated to, it was Q'nos in the 23rd century and ultimately still Q'nos in the 24th century 78 years later. I believe on of the Starfleet Admirals quotes was: "The Klingon Empire has 50 years of life left to it." (implying their Homeworld would be uninhabitable in 50 years) - so yeah, either they moved and renamed the 'new' world; or the Feds/Klingons managed to salvage/repair the original Q'nos ecosystem.
And it is the writers who brought the show into existence. So whilst I roll my eyes at the idea this show is meant to be canon, it is the story they want to tell, pitched to CBS and then commissioned into a show.
If they wanted to do a story post TNG, DS9, VOY - then they would have. But it wouldn't be the same story. And I think the war is being used as a canvas to tell the story of a Human, brought up Vulcan, seen as a traitor, who may or may not redeem herself, and lead the way for a cold war, and eventual peace.
Which is exactly like real diplomacy, which I loved. People aren't mortal enemies one minute and BFFs the next, the process started long before TUC and continued long after. The Khitomer Accords were just a stepping stone. I liked that Star Trek did it that way, it made it more interesting.
I’ve wanted this for the last 10+ years. Either that or after Voyager.
Which is an incredibly uninteresting story.
And... you missed the point entirely.
The only issue I have with the setting of Discovery just before TOS is the tech and maybe I can convince myself that the tech is not more advanced than TOS. Just that it looks that way, just that the special effects are better in Discovery.
I'm worried about the doctor fixing someone's face with just a wave of a device though.
If you want a Star Trek that is possibly going to guest star characters from another Star Trek well (call me shallow) I want to see those characters when they were young and sexy, so nowhere after TUC or NEM.
Either before TOS or TNG
I'm worried about the doctor fixing someone's face with just a wave of a device though.
If you want a Star Trek that is possibly going to guest star characters from another Star Trek well (call me shallow) I want to see those characters when they were young and sexy, so nowhere after TUC or NEM.
Either before TOS or TNG
Yeah that's it, they made an entire TV series just to contradict some never-happened fan film project
Here's the Axanar feature film script. In case you want to know what you're missing out on.
Axanar's version of the Klingon/Federation war is based on FASA's The Four Years War, published in the late 80's. In other words, CBS fully owned what they're contradicting right now.
Yeah that's it, they made an entire TV series just to contradict some never-happened fan film project
Here's the Axanar feature film script. In case you want to know what you're missing out on.
Axanar's version of the Klingon/Federation war is based on FASA's The Four Years War, published in the late 80's. In other words, CBS fully owned what they're contradicting right now.
That script is pretty awful, the epitome of fanwank. Vulcan seceding from the Federation, a Starfleet Captain beating up a prisoner to get information. If Discovery did any of that there would be so much fanrage.
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