Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

[SolarisOne]

I miss Georgiou. It was a real shame that they killed her off.

Agreed.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's getting harder with each episode to say this series belongs to the prime timeline. I can understand updating the look of the technology to our expectations of what technology would like. However, the design of the D-7 and the unnamed starbase at the beginning do not look like any aesthetic familiar to me of the Klingon or the Federation cultures. Then, there is this.

"I knew what waited for them on Qo'noS - degradation, torture, slow, public death. It's the Klingon way. To spread terror."

Are they Klingons or ISIL?

Sounds Klingon to me.

KOR: Have I asked whether or not you want it? We Klingons have a reputation for ruthlessness. You will find that it is deserved. Should one Klingon soldier be killed, a thousand Organians will die. I will have order. Is that clear?

KOR [OC]: Two hundred Organians have just been killed.
KIRK; Two hundred of them.
KOR [OC]: In two hours, two hundred more will die, and two hundred more after that until the two Federation spies are turned over to us. This is the order of Kor.

 

[XCV330]

"Prayer Saavik, Klingons don't take prisoners" i.e. "we'll blow you up before they get a chance to"

 

[CRM-114]

Mudd knew

Though not the entire story.

That's true. I actually thought they would have Lorca deny it, but I like that he not only didn't deny it, but told a truth that was arguably worse.

Admittedly, if they weren't at war, Starfleet likely wouldn't have given him a new command, but war leads people to do things that are difficult if not impossible to justify in peacetime. Plus, the choice to blow up the Buran marks him as a captain willing to make a difficult choice that might've paralyzed something else, recognizing that sometimes there is no "good" choice, but the best choice is the most expedient one.

It's Lorca's Kobayashi Maru scenario; there was no way to win, so he chose what seemed to him to be the lesser of two bad solutions.

 

[XCV330]

Kirk threatened to blow up the ship in TMP too, with all crew onboard.

 

[Tuskin38]

There was a Big Bang theory refernce in the episode

https://twitter.com/karterhol/status/919783478916366336

 

[tomalak301]

And not only that, they gave him one of two brand new spanking prototypes testing new weapon systems. Plus they let him bring in the only ever mutineer in history of Starfleet and have her work on the main system they are testing.

I was confused about that too. What Burnham did was peanuts compared to that. Hell, What Burnham did was more of a misunderstanding.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Kirk threatened to blow up the ship in TMP too, with all crew onboard.

Kirk's a damn psychopath.

 

[Noname Given]

Tagged since Canada and ahead of some you

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that ending, what the hell. His reflection is aliveee

No, it's this...

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There's your 'Mirror Universe' episode.

 

[Tuskin38]

No, it's this...

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There's your 'Mirror Universe' episode.

I’d agree, If we hadn’t already seen the ISS Discovery dedication plaque lmao

 

[tomalak301]

Does anyone know why we didn't get a trailer for next week. The episode ended and it went right to the credits. Is next week a big episode or something?

 

[Tuskin38]

Does anyone know why we didn't get a trailer for next week. The episode ended and it went right to the credits. Is next week a big episode or something?

There was a trailer according to a couple posters in this thread

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yeah, I saw one.

 

[tomalak301]

There was a trailer according to a couple posters in this thread

Not what I was watching, which was All-Access.

 

[CorporalClegg]

If the bit at the end is meant to segue into the mirror universe, I'll be really disappointed. It'd be way too on-the-nose to take seriously and a pretty poor way to end an otherwise good episode.

 

[SolarisOne]

as well as cement for me his similarities to Commodore Reyes and Captain Mackenzie Calhoun from the novel series Star Trek Vanguard and Star Trek New Frontier, respectively.

Yeah, I'm definitely starting to get a Calhoun vibe from Lorca. (That's a good thing--he's my favorite noncanon captain). He doesn't have Calhoun's smartass mouth, but that's probably for the best.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Not what I was watching, which was All-Access.

I watched it live on All Access

 

[Noname Given]

Maybe I missed this, but ...

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Does Lorca know they've freed the tardigrade?

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Probably not..and Saru is probably really going to catch hell from him because Saru (still acting as Captain since Lorca wasn't fit to resume command yet) is the one who gave Burnham the explicit order. So for once Burnham ISN'T the instigator of that action - she just followed the order.)

 

[CorporalClegg]

I didn't get to see a trailer either.

I assumed there wasn't a new episode next week - nice way to end as the episode warped up a lot of stuff from the first four.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I didn't get to see a trailer either.

I assumed there wasn't a new episode next week - nice way to end as the episode warped up a lot of stuff from the first four.

Warped? Nah, they used the ShroomDrive.