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Spoilers Screen Rant: Star Trek: Discovery just commited war crimes

Except if Burnham had attacked first and killed T'Kuvma, all that would have resulted would have been a dead Klingon "leader" in a ship that had invaded Federation space under cloak and had attacked a communications relay. They hadn't yet ignited the beacon and T'Kuvma hadn't had a chance to even apprise the other Klingon Houses of his thoughts, let alone convince them to go to war oven them. If T'Kuvma dead first -> no war with the Federation.
Which she wasn't aware was their plan. I was just pointing out that Burnham's idea would have only made a volatile situation worse.
 
It’s a fictional war. Our heroes should at least appear to be a little more, you know, heroic. But I guess them being war criminals makes the show more realistic or something.
It makes them flawed, and that is more interesting to me. War isn't always heroic, and individuals don't always make heroic choices.

Do I like it? No, I prefer heroes. But, I can appreciate the portrayal and what they are trying to accomplish.

Fictional or not, war is terrible. Why sterilize it?
 
Yes, you have. And Trek has many examples of this throughout its series.
Absolutely. But we were not even close of that line here, whilst some of the previous captains (Sisko, Archer) have merrily jumped over it.

Maybe. But their characters were likable and sympathetic so we/I gave them a pass. :biggrin: Except for Janeway. She gets blamed for anything. :D
 
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So our heroes are as evil as our villains. Nice.

This is what it comes down to for me. This is entertainment not a real war. I like for Starfleet to be heroic and in the right more often than not. Everyone does dark where the government and main characters are evil on some level.
 
This is what it comes down to for me. This is entertainment not a real war. I like for Starfleet to be heroic and in the right more often than not. Everyone does dark where the government and main characters are evil on some level.

If you dislike what you're watching, there's nothing I can argue. But I think them doing what they did, and it not being the right choice-- not the "Starfleet way" is sort of the point of that episode.

It will continue to haunt Burnham until she chooses the right path and stands up to Lorca for the things he's doing wrong as well.
 
Well, they seemed to brush off Sisko's poisoning of a planet in "For the Uniform".

That was more the product of the episodic nature of Trek back then. Even with a serialized Dominion arc, there were rarely after-effects of action taking place in an episode.
 
That was more the product of the episodic nature of Trek back then. Even with a serialized Dominion arc, there were rarely after-effects of action taking place in an episode.

But they were doing an arc, they could have addressed it if they had wanted to.
 
My answer was tongue in cheek. I disagree that previous captains crossed the line. And if and when they did it was always the moral issue of the episode. It wasn’t ignored or quickly brushed-off like DSC has done (so far).
Really? I never remember seeing either Sisko or Archer facing a court martial for their crimes.
 
Really? I never remember seeing either Sisko or Archer facing a court martial for their crimes.

That is just part of a long tradition of Starfleet doing nothing to its officers. Going back to Spock stealing the Enterprise in "The Menagerie".
 
I wonder what it says about me that I'm okay with war crimes in a fictional universe, as long as I like the characters? :eek:

:lol:
 
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