It's, like, a war or something...unfortunately, the niceties are very difficult in a life or death situation.So our heroes are as evil as our villains. Nice.
It's, like, a war or something...unfortunately, the niceties are very difficult in a life or death situation.So our heroes are as evil as our villains. Nice.
Which she wasn't aware was their plan. I was just pointing out that Burnham's idea would have only made a volatile situation worse.Except if Burnham had attacked first and killed T'Kuvma, all that would have resulted would have been a dead Klingon "leader" in a ship that had invaded Federation space under cloak and had attacked a communications relay. They hadn't yet ignited the beacon and T'Kuvma hadn't had a chance to even apprise the other Klingon Houses of his thoughts, let alone convince them to go to war oven them. If T'Kuvma dead first -> no war with the Federation.
It's, like, a war or something...unfortunately, the niceties are very difficult in a life or death situation.
It makes them flawed, and that is more interesting to me. War isn't always heroic, and individuals don't always make heroic choices.It’s a fictional war. Our heroes should at least appear to be a little more, you know, heroic. But I guess them being war criminals makes the show more realistic or something.
Fictional or not, war is terrible. Why sterilize it?
Yes, you have. And Trek has many examples of this throughout its series.Don’t sterilize it, but don’t make it necessary and/or acceptable either. There’s always an ethical line and if you cross it you’ve become the evil monster you were fighting against in the first place.
Absolutely. But we were not even close of that line here, whilst some of the previous captains (Sisko, Archer) have merrily jumped over it.Don’t sterilize it, but don’t make it necessary and/or acceptable either. There’s always an ethical line and if you cross it you’ve become the evil monster you were fighting against in the first place.
Yes, you have. And Trek has many examples of this throughout its series.
Absolutely. But we were not even close of that line here, whilst some of the previous captains (Sisko, Archer) have merrily jumped over it.
I didn't.But their characters were likable and sympathetic so we/I gave them a pass.
So our heroes are as evil as our villains. Nice.
This is what it comes down to for me. This is entertainment not a real war. I like for Starfleet to be heroic and in the right more often than not. Everyone does dark where the government and main characters are evil on some level.
I didn't.
It wasn’t ignored or quickly brushed-off like DSC has done (so far).
Well, they seemed to brush off Sisko's poisoning of a planet in "For the Uniform".
That was more the product of the episodic nature of Trek back then. Even with a serialized Dominion arc, there were rarely after-effects of action taking place in an episode.
Really? I never remember seeing either Sisko or Archer facing a court martial for their crimes.My answer was tongue in cheek. I disagree that previous captains crossed the line. And if and when they did it was always the moral issue of the episode. It wasn’t ignored or quickly brushed-off like DSC has done (so far).
Really? I never remember seeing either Sisko or Archer facing a court martial for their crimes.
So. Bad writing on previous Treks absolves DSC from bad writing. Got it.
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