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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x04 - "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry"

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What do we know about Corvan 2? Memory Alpha says it's a planet from TNG's 'New Ground' episode.... but also says it provides 40% of the Federation's dilithium. Same planet?
 
I would say, that if you're not enjoying the series at this point, this should have broken the thin ice for you. There's more of the same on the way... so I'm not sure why anyone's would hang on at this point if you continue to be disgruntled.
Y'know, I understand your thinking here, but some of the commentary is coming from a place of seeing something not live up to past expectations.

You can write that off as nostalgia goggles but it's a real thing.
 
What do we know about Corvan 2? Memory Alpha says it's a planet from TNG's 'New Ground' episode.... but also says it provides 40% of the Federation's dilithium. Same planet?

Its defenses were built by the same company that made the Mars Defense Perimeter.

Isn't dilithium renewable by TNG?
 
It wouldn't have been necessary, if it wasn't for DS9 mentioning it in the Tribble episode, and ENT making the loss of ridges canonical in its fourth season. Now at minimum they need to show ridgeless human-looking Klingons somewhere.
No, they don't. Just like Trek has always done with a lot of other things, ignore it when it's not necessary.
Appearance is one thing, but the characterization from TOS to the movies to TNG era seemed to elaborate and build on itself. These Klingons are nothing like what would grow into what we see in TOS.
The Klingons of TOS bear little resemblance, and I'm talking how they are characterized, to their TNG counterparts.
 
It wouldn't have been necessary, if it wasn't for DS9 mentioning it in the Tribble episode, and ENT making the loss of ridges canonical in its fourth season. Now at minimum they need to show ridgeless human-looking Klingons somewhere.

Wonder if "You have to give up everything" means the Torchbearer becomes the first human-looking Klingon. The show hasn't exactly been subtle so far, so i won't be surprised.
 
In thinking about it, unless something radical happens that the House of Kor is different from what we see, this series has completely screwed up the Klingons.
 
Y'know, I understand your thinking here, but some of the commentary is coming from a place of seeing something not live up to past expectations.

You can write that off as nostalgia goggles but it's a real thing.

I think my point is that if your looking for an episode(s) where the cast tells a joke at the end and laughs just as the credits pop up or if you're looking for them to beam down to a planet with forehead-of-the-week dudes to interact with them and have adventures resulting in good things...it's really clear that ain't happening.

There's no denying it now...and no reason to keep punishing yourself if that's what you're holding out for.
 
It wouldn't have been necessary, if it wasn't for DS9 mentioning it in the Tribble episode, and ENT making the loss of ridges canonical in its fourth season. Now at minimum they need to show ridgeless human-looking Klingons somewhere.

I for one am categorically uninterested in anything that Enterprise contributed with to canon. That show is the Star Trek equivalent of the Star Wars Holiday Special.
 
No, they don't. Just like Trek has always done with a lot of other things, ignore it when it's not necessary.

Visual reboots do not affect canon, but if they don't hold to the continuity of Affliction/Divergence in some manner, than canon is broken.

The Klingons of TOS bare little resemblance, and I'm talking how they are characterized, to their TNG counterparts.

I disagree. I think Kang's performance in Day of the Dove in particular in a lot of ways presages TNG-era Klingon performances.
 
Being cannibals was very unsettling, and this kind of radical departure

At the risk of being called pedantic, the Klingons are technically not cannibals. Cannibalism would involve eating one's own species (i.e. a dead Klingon)---eating a dead human doesn't count.

As for reasons why they might eat a human corpse, I can think of two: one, as a way of venting their anger towards the people who killed their Messiah, and two, as a way of extending their food supply.
 
I would say, that if you're not enjoying the series at this point, this should have broken the thin ice for you. There's more of the same on the way... so I'm not sure why anyone's would hang on at this point if you continue to be disgruntled.

It gets a few extra chances simply because it's got Star Trek in the title, otherwise we wouldn't be posting here. Over all, four episodes in, this show is just barely above average as far as I'm concerned. Those frickin' Klingons bore me to death, but since I mute their scenes and miss that gawd awful language of theirs, they are tolerable.
 
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