So Much For IDIC!
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Don't let me stop you. I'm trying to give this thread the benefit of the doubt that it's not just Discovery Drama leaking up here, but....
IDIC was something that was used in, what, two episodes? Why has it become the be all and end all of all of Star Trek?
I try and give a show a season before I decide if I like it or not, or at minimum half a season.
It's a handy tool when someone disagrees with you.
Most of the time I could care less what other people think. If they want to whine that new Star Trek isn't "Gene's vision" or whatever other stupid crap they feel the need to vent about, fine. But I do care when people try to justify their opinions with false information. That's always annoying and in need of correcting.
For what it's worth, this is not just a Trekkie thing. You see it in comics fandom, PLANET OF THE APES fandom, GODZILLA fandom, etc.
I still remember the time I was accused of not being a "true" SUPERMAN fan by somebody who probably wasn't even born when I was watching George Reeves on our old black-and-white TV.
The whole "true fan' thing is toxic.
I still remember the time I was accused of not being a "true" SUPERMAN fan by somebody who probably wasn't even born when I was watching George Reeves on our old black-and-white TV.
The whole "true fan' thing is toxic.
I agree a lot of people are assholes about Trek stuff, I just think that jumping that up to victimhood is a bit of an exaggeration. I feel like referring to yourself as a victim over something you can just up and walk away from at no cost is trivializing the term that should be reserved for people physically, economically or truly psychologically harmed. Like people beaten up, or fired for being gay, or so relentlessly mocked at school they are afraid to come in. Not just anyone made to feel bad on the internet by strangers you can never have to interact with again at will.
Discovery is not Roddenberry's vision, but it's not trying to be. I will judge the show on what it is, not what it's not, thank you very much.
Discovery is not Roddenberry's vision, but it's not trying to be. I will judge the show on what it is, not what it's not, thank you very much.
IDIC was a blatant cash-grab GR came up with to sell IDIC pins through his mail order business.
Yes it was. And now it's being used as this meaning of the Star Trek universe. Personally, I thought the Rules of Acquisition was a lot more creative.
ST: D actually makes more sense if it took place in the Kelvin timeline, of which is a completely different timeline so the same events to the Prime did not occur. (Early on it was said ST: D would be in the prime timeline but with the production team changes and circumstantial evidence with sfx and how modern audiences have tuned into the Kelvin era movies and not necessarily the older shows and they're probably the largest fanbase to be targeted if not general audiences anyway.)
So whether or not people like the alternate timeline, they still fit within the concept of IDIC - infinite diversity in infinite combinations, which must by definition include all possibilities?
It's all sold under the same franchise "Star Trek". Why not accept it's all part of the same franchise? Everyone's going to dislike one version over another - they might like Kelvin but dislike ENT. Or like TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT and dislike all the others. Or they like it all. Or they might dislike it all, in which case they'd get bored very quickly if they hung out in Star Trek forums...
I thought they threw it out because it was blatant merchandising? (Leonard Nimoy had a bit of a fit at the time: http://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.com/2013/08/dont-know-much-about-vulcan-philosophy.html and http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/IDIC ...)
I never feel victimised for not being much of a TNG, DS9 or first-half-of-ENT fan.
I wasn't a fan of BSG when it was huge, posted about it here a bit and everyone was pretty cool.
Maybe it's the whole "proper"/"real" Star Trek thing? That is kind of annoying and just begs people to call you on it.
I bet if fish could complain, & you dumped them in Flint Michigan, they'd complain about the water lolStar Trek fans are sort of like fish who complain about water.
You're implying you're a victim yet use heated terms like "churned out" and expect no negative responses??
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BTW the last time I read a post about being a true-fan (aside from this thread), it was someone who said only Bergman era Trek was true-Trek.
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