Wasn't there an original series novel where Kirks Enterprise encounters a starship from several hundred years in the future. It is a Federation ship and its stardrive depends on a hideous, extremely deadly predatory animals that will slaughter almost anything identifiable as meat. These creatures are "tamed" (kind of) to think of the starship as their nest and take the ship and crew with them when they want to move.
The Spore Drive Technology. What Do You Think About It?
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It's not even in the top 10 of either.
Why would using a fungus that contains "exotic matter" to traverse "sub-space" be any more ridiculous than using a mineral that contains "exotic matter" to traverse "sub-space"?
Where?
I think he nailed it here though, when he put on his Treksplanation hat
Close to what? A Treksplanation?
The fungus can do whatever the writers need it to do because the fungus doesn't exist. Once again, this is a TV show, not a documentary. The myth that Star Trek is scientifically accurate really needs to die. It has hybrids of lifeforms from separate planets. Amanda had more in common genetically with an apple tree than Sarek. Yet that gets a free pass and don't bring up all humanoid life being seeded by aliens. That's not scientific either.
Yes.
It be more interesting if the technology works and it actually is incorporated into all those warp drives we've seen since the 1960s. We just didn't know it because by 2266 its considered common and not remarkable because it has some sort of limits that make it only useful in particular areas.
Perhaps this is the warp highways are actually this system and Starfleet uses it regularly when a ship crosses its path and can get to a destination quicker than normal warp drives. . The Excelsior's transwarp drive being the experiment to get around needing to have a specific network in order to use the faster speeds. The reason USS Voyager doesn't make use of it is because the network is not mapped out that far, and it might take too long to find out, or they know in advance that the Borg killed/assimilated the network so it isn't viable between the Alpha and Delta Quadrants.
Perhaps this is the warp highways are actually this system and Starfleet uses it regularly when a ship crosses its path and can get to a destination quicker than normal warp drives. . The Excelsior's transwarp drive being the experiment to get around needing to have a specific network in order to use the faster speeds. The reason USS Voyager doesn't make use of it is because the network is not mapped out that far, and it might take too long to find out, or they know in advance that the Borg killed/assimilated the network so it isn't viable between the Alpha and Delta Quadrants.
Can you explain why?
So it means one can travel or project instantly, like transwarp or teleporting but with greater scope? Light years in seconds. Shame Voyager was too advanced to have it, (sarcasm). Why did later technology and Star Trek use dilithium as an agent or conduit (and I freely admit I don't invest in full 'science' of warp drive etc.), when they had these spores? I can accept a crystal or a compound can be of use, and even accept 'Voyager' with her bio-neural technology, not to mention Ransom using bio creatures for fuel, but spores? Little living dynamos.. I'm not even convinced they could be enhanced, it really doesn't translate as sophisticated enough as a premise. Imagine the mess if the 'environment' didn't suit them. Discovery would look like a petri dish.
That doesn't explain why it's more realistic, which was the question.
No, it simply gives an opinion on why it might be problematic with past Trek episodes.
You mean ones (episodes) yet to happen in the timeline? Ones that validate the usage and consistency of non-spore technology.
Yeah, I do.
As for "the future", Discovery may or may not address those problems. They have an entire season/series to do so. And I doubt they planned to do it in the first three episodes. By the next season the Shroomdrive could be a failure and the show will be focused on a different "problem". Surely you've watched enough TV to know this?
But the question remains, why is it more unrealistic than rocks?
That depends greatly on the end result of the spore drive system. It could be in all the other warp drives and we've not noticed because we assume that's just how warp drive works, or it has specific limitations to be safe that don't get brought up in later series, because "everyone" knows that really by their time.
The simply the name didn't stick and Starfleet calls it something else we've heard of a hundred times before and just not noticed.
Prototaxites was an actual genius of fungi. However, it lived a very long time ago and went extinct before the rise of the dinosaurs.
For myself, I find it interesting that we went from space and time and thought weren't separate things to, thirty years later, physics and biology are not separate things on the quantum level. I do not know which is more believable or more ridiculous.
For myself, I find it interesting that we went from space and time and thought weren't separate things to, thirty years later, physics and biology are not separate things on the quantum level. I do not know which is more believable or more ridiculous.
I had a little look around to see if we do use micro-bio fuel in current technology, it exists. Yet chemical and electric reactions (and in the case of transwarp), dilithium, used in an electromagnetic field, parallel something more traditional, and in my opinion, more believable. Talking about what is and isn't realistic with science fiction has to go to some kind of familiar ground. Relating to something that has the audience think, oh yeah that could work. However if you think spores are realistic and is the way to go, then that's all right by me. I think it's stupid and not as realistic as -- rocks.
Why can't the exotic matter in the fungus also use chemical and electric reactions? Living things are full of both. Living things generate their own electromagnetic fields. Why not extrapolate from that?
All I know about dilithium is the rocks somehow warp space and matter/anti-matter reactions are involved. It's also totally made up.
Lithium on the other hand is a real and currently fungi are being used to recycle lithium from used batteries Who knows what will happen if we gave them dilithium.
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