The God Thing?I do remember one TOS guy here who didn't like anything post The Motion picture....Mr. Stinky Pants/The great Mambo Chicken and another name he had that escapes me...lol
The God Thing?I do remember one TOS guy here who didn't like anything post The Motion picture....Mr. Stinky Pants/The great Mambo Chicken and another name he had that escapes me...lol
That particular version of the franchise needed to be put out of its misery. Beyond was better than the first two, but that's not saying much.You also failed to mention that Beyond did the worst at the box office. And may have killed the film franchise.
Discovery may just be a reimagined Trek, but the Klingons have definitely been "rebooted."
And with that new costuming came new footwear. There's the re-boot.Their looks changed, their politics a tad different, but they're still the same ole chest thumping Klingons we've always had.
One thing does not contradict the other. Worf's joke in the DS9 tribble tribute episode was amusing, but it wasn't an explanation.Because it was over a Gods damned joke. It retconned 30 years of trek over a freaking joke. It was stupid.
Umm... the fact that no answers were (initially) given is why an explanation was necessary. What is unclear about this? Do you just enjoy unexplained contradictions?Because it wasn't a necessary explanation, as evidenced by the fact that TMP just presented them and moved on, no questions asked, and no answers given.
Can't agree with you there. IMHO the fourth season of ENT was the only watchable one. Manny Coto and the Reeves-Stevenses very effectively made a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Unfortunately most of the viewership was already gone by that point.^ I think the problem was more that “fans” were writing the show at that time. Season 4 was just a tad too fanwank-ish for my tastes. Some of it was cool, some of it was great – but a lot of it was just things they thought other fans would want to see.
One thing does not contradict the other. Worf's joke in the DS9 tribble tribute episode was amusing, but it wasn't an explanation.
So I mean. Whatevs. It's whatevs. A little wonky that the Klingons we've seen in Discovery don't seem to have been affected, but hey, maybe... um, maybe they were. I don't know. It's just not a thing I think about overlong. I can tell you this much: I'm glad they don't look like humans in this show.
That's it...The God Thing?
Well, Kirk did it in TOS - "Day of the Dove" to get to Main Engineering:A little late:. Site to site transport is maybe 50 years too early? Non biomaterials should be easier to produce . TOS Food seems to come out of the food slots quickly, or was it stores (in statis) somewhere and just conveyed to where it was requested?
^^^KIRK: We can't get through the Klingon defences in time, unless. Spock. Intra-ship beaming from one section to another. It's possible?
SPOCK: It has rarely been done because of the danger involved. Pinpoint accuracy is required. If the transportee should materialise inside a solid object, a deck or wall.
We fans were taught to respect and enjoy the canon by the writers, directors, actors, and Paramount for over five decades. In the 1960's, shows like Gilligan's Island were about as advanced as it got with continuity. TOS would make references within it's own history to the Organian Peace treaty, General Order Number One, and Captain Pike. Then, with the first motion picture, we were asked to believe the crew aged, and that the five year mission had become legendary. All of the movies and TV shows tried their best to adhere to canon. Even JJ Abrams believed that a complete reboot without explanation of the prime timeline was a bad idea. Canon is important to Star Trek because the people who make it and the people who watch it have said so for over 50 years. If you want to completely reboot it, say so. Don't pretend you're playing within the established canon of the prime timeline if you are not even trying to adhere to it.
Dunno if anybody mentioned this in regards to flathead and bumpyhead Klingons, but in TOS, Kor, Koloth and Kang were flathead and in DS9, the same actors played them as bumpyheads. Continuity? I think not.Who cares if the Klingons look different?
Dunno if anybody mentioned this in regards to flathead and bumpyhead Klingons, but in TOS, Kor, Koloth and Kang were flathead and in DS9, the same actors played them as bumpyheads. Continuity? I think not.
That's exactly my point. It didn't matter. So why the issue with redesigning the Klingons for Discovery? No retro virus. They've always looked like that.....now!This was because in setting, they always looked like the DS9 versions. Everyone always treats whst ever the current make up is, as it was always that way. For every race.
That's exactly my point. It didn't matter. So why the issue with redesigning the Klingons for Discovery? No retro virus. They've always looked like that.....now!
A reason why the ENT stories were ridiculous. No explanation necessary.
Which is also my way of saying that blind adherence to cannon for the sake of adherence to cannon is silly
Looks are not canon.
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