I think one of the Reeves-Stevens novels explained it the same way (maybe Federation?).
"Enterprise" too advanced for 22nd Century
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I think one of the Reeves-Stevens novels explained it the same way (maybe Federation?).
I think it was Memory Prime, a conversation Uhura had with some base personnel as to why the consoles used such big, chunky components, and it wasn't for ease of repair, it was the idea that a starship in combat making course corrections at multiples of light speed would in more delicate components run the risk of leaving duotronic switches and signals half a light year outside the circuitry, while the big, chunky components would keep on chugging away.
I think you can as a viewer confuse production values with "advanced" Enteprise had good production values for a Star Trek series made in the early 2000s.
How advanced was the tech in-universe though? If you compare it to TOS and TNG/DS9/VOY then it was obviously far behind.
Phasers, transporters, translators, shielding, and experience were not as advanced as they would be a century or two centuries later.
How advanced was the tech in-universe though? If you compare it to TOS and TNG/DS9/VOY then it was obviously far behind.
Phasers, transporters, translators, shielding, and experience were not as advanced as they would be a century or two centuries later.
Didn't someone in the thread mention visible cooling fans on the consoles? Where do you see that? I've been trying to find them while watching the show.
Oh and let's not forget how dangerous Federation consoles are, especially in the TNG, and Voyager era where they explode for no reason when the ship is under attack, and carry in order of 50,000 volts.
Why would you need that much voltage for a user console?
That was from the TNG tech manual
Oh and let's not forget how dangerous Federation consoles are, especially in the TNG, and Voyager era where they explode for no reason when the ship is under attack, and carry in order of 50,000 volts.
Why would you need that much voltage for a user console?
That was from the TNG tech manual
That was rather phenomenal to look at... Such amazing detail goes into everything and so much work to put it all together.
Didn't we have a forum member here wanting to do the bridge at their house?
I think it fits pretty well, the jumpsuits are like fighter pilot jump suits, the nx - 01 does look lower tech (to me) than the Connie, all welded together and such. And I honestly think that the interior is perfect, things get simpler as they get more advanced, compare the computers from as close as 30 years ago to the computers of today, now they have a screen with simple images and about 4 buttons, like the development from the nx - 01's lots of buttons and separate screens, to the tos few, large screens and lots of white (well, black) buttonless space on the consoles.
From the pictures linked above, it looks like the Qwerty keyboard was finally abandoned sometime prior to the mid 22nd century.
I think the point of "Was Enterprise too advanced..." was moot before the thread even started, as there was already 3 new Star Trek prequel movies out. And now its doubly mootified as there is a new Star Trek prequel series about to air(erm..ahem..I mean Stream).
I think the point of "Was Enterprise too advanced..." was moot before the thread even started, as there was already 3 new Star Trek prequel movies out. And now its doubly mootified as there is a new Star Trek prequel series about to air(erm..ahem..I mean Stream).
Agreed. Particularly as while it's debatable whether DSC works as a prequel to TOS, it's far more credible as a sequel to Enterprise.
Yes, completely!
About the only thing I agree with the OP about were TNG-style rank pips. Why would they start off with the same sequence TNG uses (four pips for a captain, three for a commander, etc.) when by TOS era they would be using braids instead of pips and a distinctly different pattern (two braids with a perforated braid in the center for a captain, two braids for a commander, etc.)?
Then there were the colors. Everyone seems to forget that operations division wore a sort of peach/beige color, not red, until "The Corbomite Maneuver". That's one area where Discovery actually got it more right. Why would they stop using red only to start using it again later?
Other than that, the OP is clearly wrong about everything. The NX-01 was not more advanced, and the other replies have shown that.
Then there were the colors. Everyone seems to forget that operations division wore a sort of peach/beige color, not red, until "The Corbomite Maneuver". That's one area where Discovery actually got it more right. Why would they stop using red only to start using it again later?
Other than that, the OP is clearly wrong about everything. The NX-01 was not more advanced, and the other replies have shown that.
The divisional colors in Enterprise follow TOS. Command is gold.
The "pips" used in TNG conform to the rows ("bars" or "Stripes" on shoulder)used in the Navy today. In Enterprise, they use small bars. In the U.S. Navy, one row is ensign, 2 is full LT, 3 is Commander, 4 is Captain. And there is 1 and a half, and 2 and a half rows, being LT Jr. Grade and LT Commander. Navy ranks have been both braid patterns on the sleeve, and rows in the past.
The "pips" used in TNG conform to the rows ("bars" or "Stripes" on shoulder)used in the Navy today. In Enterprise, they use small bars. In the U.S. Navy, one row is ensign, 2 is full LT, 3 is Commander, 4 is Captain. And there is 1 and a half, and 2 and a half rows, being LT Jr. Grade and LT Commander. Navy ranks have been both braid patterns on the sleeve, and rows in the past.
The same as the ones from "The Cage".
It's harder to tell, because DSC uniforms have the division colors as a sort of metallic finish, but the colors themselves are the same.
Gold, silver, and bronze (corresponding to TOS gold, blue, and red respectively).
No, they were mustard for command, pale blue for science, and a khaki-beige sort of thing for engineering/ops.
I agree they were intended to. But really only Tucker and maybe Mayweather of the uniformed main cast was actually wearing the right colour.
Hoshi should have had a pale blue stripe, not green (in TOS, green was (an optional for) Command), and per Balance of Terror (and arguably Sulu and Chekov who fired the weapons), Reed should have been wearing yellow or green as should Archer.
