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MeTV's SuperSci-Fi Saturday Night

I can totally picture Barney hiding behind the walls doing the practical effects, and Willy wearing the monster suits, if the show did those.

Stevie Nicks being Stevie Nicks.
This is a great song. I always loved Stevie Nicks. It has a strong nostalgic sound now, too.
Glad I included it. It got crunched out at one point, and then re-included.

Nerys Myk said:
Rick Springfield with some Pop Rock.
RJDiogenes said:
I'd give my opinion of Rick Springfield, but the point is probably moot.
Rick, of course, holds a place of honor in this series of posts for his role on the show. This will be his last outing here, alas.

Nerys Myk said:
Human League very New Wave synthpop.
RJDiogenes said:
This is interesting. Musically kind of dull, with a very dated 80s sound, but it tells a nice human-interest story that is timeless.
I think that people in my general age group would tend to consider this another classic of the era.

Nerys Myk said:
Macca and Stevie getting close to sappy but never crossing the line.
RJDiogenes said:
Two great talents delivering an inspiring message in an incredibly lackluster way. It makes me want to break out my Three Dog Night.
I'm more with Nerys here, I think. I can see its faults now, but when I was hearing this at the video arcade / mall / whatever in 1982, when I didn't really know from the Fabs, I found it to be a very striking song.

Nerys Myk said:
And a Toto power ballad.
RJDiogenes said:
There's only one Toto song that I like and this isn't it. It's not especially bad or anything, just not much of interest.
"Hold the Line" or "Africa"?
 
Glad I included it. It got crunched out at one point, and then re-included.
Stevie Nicks is always a good choice. :rommie:

I think that people in my general age group would tend to consider this another classic of the era.
I would agree that it's a classic of the era, despite its flaws.

I'm more with Nerys here, I think. I can see its faults now, but when I was hearing this at the video arcade / mall / whatever in 1982, when I didn't really know from the Fabs, I found it to be a very striking song.
I wouldn't call it sappy, just unfortunately boring.

"Hold the Line" or "Africa"?
"Africa."
 
Now on a new night--for two weeks only!

Yes, the all-too early end of a great series.

"Edge of Seventeen (Just Like the White Winged Dove)," Stevie Nicks
(Feb. 20; #11 US; #26 Rock)

UGH.

"Don't Talk to Strangers," Rick Springfield
(Mar. 6; #2 US; #30 AC; #11 Rock)

Sounds uncomfortably close to another song released in July of that year: Jackson Browne's "Somebody's Baby", which reached US #7 on the Billboard charts.

"Don't You Want Me," The Human League
(Mar. 6; #1 US the weeks of July 3 through 17; #3 Dance; #4 Rock; #1 UK)

Driving, important song of the period. Its popularity was yet another cannon shot announcing the major shift in the order of music genres' popularity.

"Ebony and Ivory," Paul McCartney & Stevie Wonder
(Apr. 10; #1 US the weeks of May 15 through June 26; #1 AC; #8 R&B; #34 Rock; #1 UK)

Nice sentiment, but astoundingly syrupy track. Never fond of this team-up, or his collaborations with just about anyone else post-Beatles. I could find something to love in each of McCartney's 70s solo albums, but this period (the 80s) was just a major drop off of quality, save for "No More Lonely Nights".

"Rosanna," Toto
(Apr. 17; #2 US; #17 AC; #8 Rock; #12 UK; 1983 Grammy Award for Record of the Year)

Mind wipe...ASAP. Toto's best was their debut album from 1978.
 
There was a passing reference to "hyperdrive" in the broadcast version of the Lost in Space pilot. The original pilot had the crew drifting for years in suspended animation before reaching the planet where they crashed, so it did acknowledge the lightspeed limit, but adding Dr. Smith in reshoots required giving the ship FTL capability, since there was no extra hibernation tube for him. But it was never referenced again, and in a later episode where they exceeded the speed of light, it was portrayed as a new thing and sent them back in time. As a rule, the Jupiter 2 was portrayed as being able to travel between star systems without any reference to any kind of FTL capability.

Galactica completely screwed up astronomy on every level. Supposedly the fastest speed that the fleet's fastest ships could attain was lightspeed, but they rarely went that fast so that they wouldn't leave the other ships behind. Yet the fleet was said to have passed through several galaxies by the end of its one and only season. And earlier, when it left its home galaxy, it crossed directly and immediately into the next galaxy, as if it were like crossing a state line.

And yes, I think it's due as much to scientific ignorance on the part of the writers as to the belief that the audience won't know or care. Otherwise they wouldn't get concepts like galaxies so very wrong. A lot of screen and comics writers don't seem to have understood the difference between a star system, a galaxy, and a universe.
I resurrect this necro-post only because I was watching the fourth episode of Space Battleship Yamato-Star Blazers where they have to test for the first time the warp drive. The journey to Iscander is 148,000 light-year long so they will have to do multiple "jumps".

The first jump is somewhat psychedelic.
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They even meet cavemen
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and dinosaurs
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And of course the uniform disappears from the only female member of the crew (exactly as the Wormhole theory had theorized).
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I must have missed that particular Hawking seminar ...
 
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So...we doing the last two on Wednesdays...?

Sticking to Friday, and as I do not consider the revival movies canon (and were never a part of the ME-TV TIH syndication package), I'm particularly interested in reviewing the revival movies.

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The Incredible Hulk--
"Slaves"


As David Becker hitchhikes along a desert road, he spots the wrecked car of Christy, a saucy young woman not too interested in basic formalities. Unable to repair Christy's car, David accompanies her for the 30 mile trek to the nearest town. Along the way, a seemingly jovial man named Isaac Ross drives up in his truck and offers a ride, which the duo accept. Driving off road, Isaac stops in what appears to be a small ghost town. Asking David to help him find parts for Christy's car, the man whacks Banner over the head with a wood plank, rendering him unconscious, while Christy is taken prisoner by Isaac's creepy, withered assistant, Roy.

Later, David awakens to find himself, Christy and another man (Marty Gibbs) in a mine shaft--held at gunpoint by Roy. Christy asserts her freedom, but is told she--and the rest of the unfortunates--are his slaves, and will work to find a large gold vein, based on his late grandfather's map. Isaac's of the opinion that he's entitled to use white people for forced labor as much as whites used African slaves. It does not help matters that his white partner Roy clearly has racist views of black people, and he's not afraid to show it. Twisted behavior aside, the prisoners get to work...except Christy, who refuses to life a finger, until Roy makes what can only be construed as a rape threat if she causes more trouble. Marty Gibbs tearfully reveals how he and Harry--his older brother--were captured, tried to escape trough a vent shaft, only for Harry to fall to his death.

That evening, slop is served; despite its unappetizing appearance, David eats, and encourages Christy to do the same--in order to keep up her strength for any escape attempts. Christy's hopes the car she was driving (belonging to her one-time record producer fiancée, revealed to be an adulterer) will be found. Isaac informs her Roy has moved the car from any potential prying eyes, and mocks her with his "poor 'ol Isaac" routine, which he uses to make himself disarming to the public.

The slave labor continues for days, until a rock lined with a gold vein is discovered. Overjoyed, Isaac continues the digging on his own. One evening, the prisoners sit in the saloon, listening to Roy's bragging and general nonsense. David prepares to rise as Roy harasses the silent, disheartened Christy, until Isaac walks in, giving a disapproving stare at this henchman. Isaac gives a comb and pocket mirror to Christy, but she sits still, staring at nothing. Roy smarts off to Isaac as the "master" returns to the mine, giving Roy an opening to grab the limp Christy up for an impromptu dance. David and Marty rise, demanding Roy to stop. Quick to anger, Roy aims his rifle at the men, ordering them to mount the saloon stage to fight each other. Initially, Marty refuses, until Roy goes low, insulting Marty with the memory of his late brother.

Traumatized more than he let on, Marty lashes out in anger--at David, much to the delight of the cackling Roy. As David begs Marty to stop beating him, Christy considers snatching the rifle from Roy. On stage, Marty's assault sends Banner through the weak wooden floor...triggering a Hulk out. In that moment, Christy tries to grab the rifle, but Marty stops her to protect Roy--still reacting like a defeated slave.

Roy moves toward the stage to check on David, but jumps back in horror at the sight of the Hulk climbing out; Marty and Christy run out of the Saloon, as the Hulk hurls a player piano at Roy. The henchman takes a few shots at the creature--missing each time. The Hulk crashes out of a window, and vanishes. Elsewhere, Isaac holds Christy & Marty at gunpoint, and grills Roy about Banner's whereabouts. He's writes off Roy's Hulk claims as the talk of a drunk. Eventually, Isaac finds Banner, and returns him to the mine to be chained at the ankle to the others. Banner plays on Isaac's reverse racism, leading the man to spit back--

Isaac: "I was born in a society that gave me the illusion of freedom, but I'm still black--still in chains, just as sure as my grandfather was!"

Roy continues to taunt Isaac about their shared prison experiences--mentioning how in those days, everyone called him "boy" in the racist sense--a reminder boiling Isaac's blood to the point where he threatens Roy. Left to themselves to work, David begins using a pick axe to loosen the boards covering the same vent shaft where Marty's brother died...

Back in the saloon, Roy is angered by Isaac's complete refusal to use the found vein as credit to bring in a professional crew to obtain the gold, accusing Isaac of being more interested in playing his reverse slavery game than finding the gold--their one and only reason for being there. Rubbing it in, Roy reminds Isaac of his would-be slave master nonsense he used against (white) inmates in prison, and the fact that he's only free from his life sentence because of Roy's assistance, which makes them partners. Not to mention Isaac signed the deed to the mine over to Roy as a convict cannot own property. Weary of Roy's ranting, Isaac tosses the question of what to do with the "slaves" in Roy's lap, but is distressed when Roy casually talks about murdering the trio. That's enough for Isaac, who belittles Roy and orders him back to the mines.

After getting drunk, Roy harasses the prisoners, frightening them by lighting the disconnected fuse on a stick of dynamite, but promising he will use the real deal to clear out the mine. Obviously, Roy's condition leads to another angry exchange between "master" and "overseer", with Roy twisting the knife of their mutually racist past. Once again, Isaac sends Roy away, with the latter laughing in a most cryptic manner. The prisoners warn Isaac about the dynamite threat, which he initially dismisses, then decides to check out for himself--just in time to face off against a dynamite tossing Roy. Isaac defuses one lit & tossed stick after another; concurrently, the prisoners make their way into the vent shaft, until Roy manages to send a dynamite stick past Isaac. With no time left to pull the fuse, Isaac tosses the stick out of the mine entrance, but it explodes, causing the mine roof to dump rubble and beams om him. David returns to free Isaac, but suffers the same fate from a second cave-in, triggering a Hulk-out.

The creature breaks out of the mine, sees Roy, and chases the shocked drunk around the ghost town, eventually cornering Roy in the lobby of what was once an old hotel. In a drunken panic, Roy tosses a stick of dynamite at the Hulk, who catches it, throws it back to Roy just as it explodes, blowing Roy's body through a wall and into the street. Slightly dazed from the blast, the Hulk wanders off.

Christy & Marty bind and load their former captors in Isaac's truck, ready to turn them over to the sheriff. Christy is devastated, believing David died in the mine cave in, but on another road, a recovered Banner continues his journey.

NOTES:

This is not a cure-related episode.

Jack McGee does not appear in this episode.

Not enough time to fully explore the feelings of a black man practicing a form of reverse racism with the enslavement of white people. The episode required at least another 30 minutes to build on more than Isaac's "the American dream did not work for me / I'm still in chains"-esque beliefs to justify the depth of his problems leading to his abuses. Roy's own racism was the contrast to avoid potential TV critic screaming of only focusing on the lone black character poisoned by racial hatred, but it was not necessary to tell this kind of story. In fact, it was a distraction. We--the audience--can sense what Isaac has gone through (at least as a "crack in the door" before he sort of explained it), and did not need Roy to serve as a taste of those experiences. The focus should have been on Isaac's experiences alone, and the point would have been clear about what he's feeling whether alone, or around others.

"Slaves" was written by Jeri Taylor, later to be one of the most involved talents in the Berman Star Trek era, as a writer, associate and executive producer.

This might be the second time David is believed to be dead at the conclusion of a story--obviously, the other time this occurred was in the pilot.

Conscientious David: picks up the Band-Aid wrapper Christy carelessly tosses to the ground. Hulk no litter.

GUEST CAST:

John Hancock
(Isaac Whittier Ross) might be best known for his supporting role in Airplane II: The Sequel (Paramount, 1982) as the controller with the "hot" report, but he had a few fantasy credits under his belt--
  • The Greatest American Hero (ABC, 1982) - "A Chicken in Every Plot"
  • Voyagers! (NBC, 1983) - "All Fall Down"
  • The Twilight Zone (CBS, 1986) - "The Convict's Piano"
  • Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat (Vestron, 1989)
  • Star Trek: The Next Generation (Syndicated, 1990 & 1991) - "The Defector" & "The Wounded" as Admiral Haden
Charles Tyner (Roy)--
  • Family Plot (Universal, 1976) - directed by Alfred Hitchcock
  • Pete's Dragon (Walt Disney Productions, 1977) - voice of Merle
  • Evilspeak (Warner Brothers / Mareno Films, 1981)
  • Space (CBS, 1983) - miniseries based on the James A. Michener novel
Not many fantasy credits, but he also co-starred in The Stone Killer (Columbia Pictures, 1973) with Jack Colvin and 2-time TIH guest Paul Koslo.

Faye Grant (Christy)--
  • Voyagers! (NBC, 1982) - "Voyagers" - pilot
  • Voyager from the Unknown (MCA Hone Video, 1982) - two episodes of Voyagers! edited to make this "movie"
  • Tales of the Gold Monkey (ABC, 1983) - "Last Chance Louie"
  • V (NBC, 1983) - as Juliet Parrish
  • V: The Final Battle (NBC, 1984) - as Juliet Parrish
  • V - the series (NBC, 1984-'85) - as Dr. Juliet Parrish
  • Alien Private Eye (Forthright Productions, 1988)
  • Omen IV: The Awakening (FOX, 1991)
  • Tales from the Crypt (HBO, 1991) - "Spoiled"
Jeffrey Kramer (Marty)--
  • Jaws (Universal, 1975) - as Deputy Hendricks
  • Jaws II (Universal, 1978) - as Deputy Hendricks, joining Donna Wilkes from "Alice in Discoland" as the second person from this film to guest star on TIH
  • Halloween II (Universal, 1981)
  • Heartbeeps (Universal, 1981)
  • Santa Claus: The Movie (TriStar Pictures, 1985)
  • Out of This World (Syndicated, 1988) - "Old Flame"

 
I resurrect this necro-post only because I was watching the fourth episode of Space Battleship Yamato-Star Blazers where they have to test for the first time the warp drive. The journey to Iscander is 148,000 light-year long so they will have to do multiple "jumps".

The first jump is somewhat psychedelic.
Space_Battleship_Yamato_-_04_7_AC58_E25_.mkv_snap.jpg

Space_Battleship_Yamato_-_04_7_AC58_E25_.mkv_snap.jpg

Space_Battleship_Yamato_-_04_7_AC58_E25_.mkv_snap.jpg

They even meet cavemen
Space_Battleship_Yamato_-_04_7_AC58_E25_.mkv_snap.jpg

and dinosaurs
Space_Battleship_Yamato_-_04_7_AC58_E25_.mkv_snap.jpg


And of course the uniform disappears from the only female member of the crew (exactly as the Wormhole theory had theorized).
Space_Battleship_Yamato_-_04_7_AC58_E25_.mkv_snap.jpg

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I must have missed that particular Hawking seminar ...

For the sake of comparison, this is the first warp in the (excellent) remake Space Battleship Yamato 2199-Star Blazers 2199.

Now the wave motion engine creates a wormhole in the front of the ship.

Fun fact: the creators of the new show were begged to insert a Yuki scene in the first warp...
Ohnogi: For our generation, I think we understood what “Warp” meant. We’d seen it used in novels and such, and when I saw the scene in the original Yamato where everything stopped, I was like, “wait a minute…isn’t just TIME moving and while THEY aren’t moving anywhere at all?” (laughter) And of course, Yuki being naked had a huge impact. (laughter)

Izubuchi: Even among the other staff working with us, some people asked if ‘THAT’ scene was going to be included, while others asked if there would be some sort of lingerie involved. (laughter)















 
Sticking to Friday, and as I do not consider the revival movies canon (and were never a part of the ME-TV TIH syndication package), I'm particularly interested in reviewing the revival movies.
From context, my first impression was that you meant to say that you're not interested in reviewing them...but maybe you're enthusiastic to tear them apart? Please clarify.

Either way, I'm sure it won't stop @Christopher from posting something if he was already inclined to. And whatever you guys do, I'll read and throw in my two bits from memory, though I won't be rewatching them.

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"Slaves"--I found this to be a compelling premise, and we even get a bit of blues singing! I thought there was going to be a "fool's gold" twist, but my memory must have been getting this one mixed up with some other story.

The South Bend-area native in me perked up at the Studebaker reference.

David Becker
Second use.

On stage, Marty's assault sends Banner through the weak wooden floor...triggering a Hulk out.
-22:59. Very contrived situation to prevent others from seeing him transform. According to my notes, Roy also knocked himself over, Adventures of Superman-style.

Eventually, Isaac finds Banner, and returns him to the mine to be chained at the ankle to the others.
I smelled the IFHO (Ineffectual First Hulk Out) coming a mile away. This is exactly the sort of situation that a FHO should resolve, at least for David.

David returns to free Isaac, but suffers the same fate from a second cave-in, triggering a Hulk-out.
-04:38.

Christy is devastated, believing David died in the mine cave in, but on another road, a recovered Banner continues his journey.
And somehow magically reequipped, Time Tunnel-style.

This is not a cure-related episode.
Schleppin' in a gold mine, goin' down down down...

John Hancock [...] might be best known for
Every school kid knows this!
his supporting role in Airplane II: The Sequel (Paramount, 1982) as the controller with the "hot" report, but he had a few fantasy credits under his belt--
Oh, wrong one.

Faye Grant (Christy)--
  • Voyagers! (NBC, 1982) - "Voyagers" - pilot
  • Voyager from the Unknown (MCA Hone Video, 1982) - two episodes of Voyagers! edited to make this "movie"
  • Tales of the Gold Monkey (ABC, 1983) - "Last Chance Louie"
  • V (NBC, 1983) - as Juliet Parrish
  • V: The Final Battle (NBC, 1984) - as Juliet Parrish
  • V - the series (NBC, 1984-'85) - as Dr. Juliet Parrish
  • Alien Private Eye (Forthright Productions, 1988)
  • Omen IV: The Awakening (FOX, 1991)
  • Tales from the Crypt (HBO, 1991) - "Spoiled"
:wtf: Not to mention that she was a series regular for the first two seasons of The Greatest American Hero as Rhonda...!

I was wondering if anyone (perhaps somebody with a TV Guide collection) could shed some light on what the show's status was between the last new episode aired in November and this one. Evidently these final two episodes aired after the regular show in the slot that Spring was done airing its episodes--which was likely the 8:00 show Herbie, the Love Bug, a mid-season pick-up that only lasted 5 episodes, two of them directed by Bixby.

Was the show reappearring for the first time since the previous Fall? If so, it's a wonder that I caught the episodes at all...I distinctly remember seeing "Slaves" first-run.

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Covering the last segment of the hiatus prior to this episode:
April 23 – Dennis Wardlow, mayor of Key West, Florida, declares the independent "Conch Republic" for a day.
April 24 – German singer Nicole wins the Eurovision Song Contest 1982 for Germany, with the song "Ein Bisschen Frieden".
April 25 – Israel completes its withdrawal from the Sinai Peninsula in accordance with the Egypt–Israel Peace Treaty of 1979.
April 26 – Falklands War: British troops retake South Georgia during Operation Paraquet.
April 30 – The Bijon Setu massacre takes place in India.

May 1 – A crowd of over 100,000 attends the first day of the 1982 World's Fair in Knoxville, Tennessee, which is kicked off with an address by President Ronald Reagan. Over 11 million people attend during its 6-month run.
May 2
  • Falklands War: The nuclear submarine HMS Conqueror sinks the Argentine cruiser General Belgrano, killing 323 sailors. Operation Algeciras, an attempt to destroy a Royal Navy warship in Gibraltar, fails.
  • The Weather Channel airs on cable television for the first time.
May 4 – Falklands War: HMS Sheffield is hit by an Exocet missile, and burns out of control; 20 sailors are killed. The ship sinks on May 10.
May 5 – A Unabomber bomb explodes in the computer science department at Vanderbilt University; secretary Janet Smith is injured.
May 8 – French-Canadian racing driver Gilles Villeneuve is killed during qualifying for the Belgian Grand Prix.


Held over from the last week covered in the preview post:

"Heat of the Moment," Asia
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(Apr. 17; #4 US; #1 Rock; #46 UK)

New on the charts in the above weeks:

"Only the Lonely," The Motels
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"Let It Whip," Dazz Band
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"Hurts So Good," John Cougar
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"I Know What Boys Like," The Waitresses
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(May 8; #62 US)

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Next week on Heroes & Icons (H&I):
  • "Veteran" (originally aired Oct. 16, 1981)
  • "Sanctuary" (originally aired Nov. 6, 1981)
  • "Triangle" (originally aired Nov. 13, 1981)
  • "Slaves" (originally aired May 5, 1982)
  • "A Minor Problem" (originally aired May 12, 1982)
Exact sync, to the week!

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Hulk: “Slaves”: Man, this was uncomfortable. As attempts to tackle the complex problems of racism and the legacy of slavery go, this was not perhaps the best idea. Scriptwriter Jeri Taylor (future Star Trek: TNG showrunner and co-creator of Voyager) no doubt meant well, trying to make Isaac a sympathetic villain and the racist Roy the real baddie in the end, but there were still parts that were wince-inducing to watch, like Isaac’s Step-n-Fetchit act in the beginning. Aside from that, it’s not a very pleasant story, and it screams small budget, with the whole thing taking place in a ghost-town backlot with only a smattering of characters.

Plus it’s an exemplar of all the perennial flaws of the show’s formula, and not just the usual thing of everyone missing the obvious connection between David and the Hulk. It struck me while watching this how the two-per-episode Hulk-out requirement forces an inconsistency in the Hulk’s behavior: in the climaxes, the Hulk has the presence of mind to go and deal directly with the ultimate source of David’s troubles, even if he has to run halfway across town to track them down, and yet in the midpoint rampages, he only deals with the immediate annoyance and then runs off inconclusively. In this case, in his first transformation, he could’ve easily gone after Isaac and ended the whole thing, like how he went after Jordan in “Triangle”’s climax. So it’s arbitrary that he didn’t.

Also, how the hell did David get his duffel bag back at the end? He would’ve had to come back to the ghost town to retrieve it, but if he’d done so, he would’ve checked in with Christy and Marty and they wouldn’t have thought he was dead. I guess he could’ve come back after they’d left, but the implication was that they’d been there long enough to search for him and not find him, and why would he have stayed away that long? Granted, the Hulk did seem kind of dazed by the explosion, so maybe that explains it, but it’s still strange.

The only thing this episode has in its favor is casting. John Hancock is an impressive presence, despite the problems with his character and the script. And Faye Grant shows good range as Christy; I can see why Kenneth Johnson remembered her and cast her as the female lead in V not long thereafter.
 
I can only imagine that David must have secret duffel bag caches hidden all over the country...or at least all over Southern California.
 
Also, how the hell did David get his duffel bag back at the end? He would’ve had to come back to the ghost town to retrieve it, but if he’d done so, he would’ve checked in with Christy and Marty and they wouldn’t have thought he was dead. I guess he could’ve come back after they’d left, but the implication was that they’d been there long enough to search for him and not find him, and why would he have stayed away that long?
If David can stay hidden away long enough between the explosion and the funeral at the conclusion of the pilot to convince the world/colleagues/family/bank manager that he is dead, hanging around hidden to sneak back to retrieve his duffel bag at the end of Slaves is simplicity itself.

A prize for the worst actor in Slaves?
 
If David can stay hidden away long enough between the explosion and the funeral at the conclusion of the pilot to convince the world/colleagues/family/bank manager that he is dead, hanging around hidden to sneak back to retrieve his duffel bag at the end of Slaves is simplicity itself.

But the point is, in this case he would've had no reason to deliberately lay low and leave Christy and Marty to believe he'd died.
 
"Heat of the Moment," Asia

(Apr. 17; #4 US; #1 Rock; #46 UK)
Not really into prog. But this song is bit of an earworm.

"Only the Lonely," The Motels

(Apr. 24; #9 US; #27 AC; #6 Rock)
Love this song. Though "Take the L Out of Lover and It's Over" is my favorite title by the Motels.

"Let It Whip," Dazz Band

(Apr. 24; #5 US; #2 Dance; #1 R&B)
Never heard of it or the band. But it brings the funk.

"Hurts So Good," John Cougar

(Apr. 24; #2 US; #1 Rock)
I like Mellencamp. Sue me.

"I Know What Boys Like," The Waitresses

(May 8; #62 US)
The song is a favorite. The outfit Patty Donahue is wearing in the video just screams "New Wave" to me. Plus her delivery of the lyric "Sucker" gets me every time.
 
Every school kid knows this!
He's a famous architect. He built a big building in Boston.

"Heat of the Moment," Asia
I absolutely love this song. It's one of the best of the early 80s and now has the added value of powerful nostalgia. Those opening bars are pure time travel.

"Only the Lonely," The Motels
I love this, too. Another example of the best the early 80s had to offer, and also a very nostalgic sound.

"Let It Whip," Dazz Band
I never heard of this one at all.

"Hurts So Good," John Cougar
Class-action suit. I like Mellencamp, too. :rommie:

"I Know What Boys Like," The Waitresses
The Waitresses crack me up. Their classic is their Christmas song, of course, but this one is hilarious.

I can only imagine that David must have secret duffel bag caches hidden all over the country...or at least all over Southern California.
Maybe he found Caine's bag in his wanderings.

I like Mellencamp. Sue me.
I admire him. He was a dumb kid who changed his name on the advice of some dumb agent-- then he grew up and took his name back. He also did some mature stuff later in his career, like "Scarecrow."

Sue you? I'm a Hoosier, I'd give you a tax credit if I could.
:rommie:
 
But the point is, in this case he would've had no reason to deliberately lay low and leave Christy and Marty to believe he'd died.
That's very true. However, I was extending the thought process (perhaps unnecessarily so) with regard to David's clothing condition were he to return post SHO. Topless and with no footwear, he might have wanted to avoid explaining away how he became dishevelled and so waited until the coast is clear before returning to pick up the bag.
Then again, none of the characters showed any thought as to how a creature wearing David's shirt suddenly appeared in the exact spot where David had fallen through the floorboards in the FHO !
 
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