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Spoilers Discovery and the Novelverse - TV show discussion thread

There will be a supernova. Things will happen. Characters will react to those things.
And then things will happen as a reaction to the things that happened in response to the supernova and characters will react to the things that happened in response to the things that happened because of the supernova.
 
So does anyone want to speculate the affects the supernova will have IU in the novels?

No, because that would likely be story ideas and they are forbidden here.

I'm not sure if one should be amused or concerned with your constant posting about needing to know about the '87 incident.
 
Doesn't he already have a copy of Spock's mind, though? Heck, if anything, his mind is closer to the original source than Spock Prime's. Think about it. Spock's mind was transferred into Spock 2 by Keniclius's machines, then transferred back into Spock by mind meld. So that means Spock had a second-generation copy of his own mind while Spock 2 had only a first-generation copy. And then Spock died and uploaded his mind into McCoy, so the katra in McCoy's head was third-generation, and that means when it was put back into the regenerated Spock (arguably also a clone of the original), that made it a fourth-generation copy -- and given how scattered his memories are, we can conclude it's not a lossless transfer. So the Spock 2 clone's mind is at least three generations closer to the source than Spock Prime's.

Of course, this isn't counting the time Spock's mind was transferred to a big shiny globe and then into Nurse Chapel before being put back in his head, since that was before the cloning and thus doesn't affect the difference in generations between the two Spocks.

Yeah, but I was suggesting (tongue-in-cheek), that Spock 2 would have the latest iteration of Spock's mind, up to the point shortly before he hopped on the red matter transport out of our timestream. Spock 2 (or any clone of Spock's with his latest katra download) could continue to be *Spock* in a similar manner as his Genesis rebirth constituted as Spock, even though he has no memory of his death (and claiming to always be Kirk's friend), as he had already deposited his katra in McCoy.
 
I apologize if my enthusiasm seems a little overbearing.

But I do worry the novelverse will have to be rebooted given Trek TV appears to be gearing up.

They need to press forward and wrap everything up and get as far as possible before that happens in my humble admittedly unlearned opinion.
 
Even if a reboot of the novel line was required (and so far that's very much not the case...there's not even a hint of that sort of thing), the likelihood of being able to "wrap up" anything is pretty small. It'd take way too much time to plan and execute, whereas the priority would be for future books to focus on the new direction. For a similar example, see what happened with the Star Wars books.

But as I said, that's not an issue, so again: Relax. Breathe regular. :)
 
I apologize if my enthusiasm seems a little overbearing.

But I do worry the novelverse will have to be rebooted given Trek TV appears to be gearing up.

They need to press forward and wrap everything up and get as far as possible before that happens in my humble admittedly unlearned opinion.
Should that ever happen, I may have a chance to read the entire novelverse in my lifetime!
 
Even if a reboot of the novel line was required (and so far that's very much not the case...there's not even a hint of that sort of thing), the likelihood of being able to "wrap up" anything is pretty small. It'd take way too much time to plan and execute, whereas the priority would be for future books to focus on the new direction. For a similar example, see what happened with the Star Wars books.

But as I said, that's not an issue, so again: Relax. Breathe regular. :)

NOVELVERSE REBOOT ALL BUT CONFIRMED.
 
The existing novelverse is more than capable of dealing with any so-called "inconsistencies" that may turn up in DSC. No reboot or relaunch will be necessary.
 
The existing novelverse is more than capable of dealing with any so-called "inconsistencies" that may turn up in DSC. No reboot or relaunch will be necessary.

And given that Kirsten Beyer is a writer on the staff, it's entirely possible that there won't even be any meaningful contradictions between DSC and the novelverse.
 
My Discovery predictions:

"There are two Andorian sexes."

"The NX-02 Columbia served with distinction for decades and Captain Erika Hernandez died in her sleep at the age of 96."

"Elias Vaughn? No, no one by that name will ever be born."

"Omne was the greatest threat the Federation ever faced."

"You have to read 533 Star Trek books before you can read Articles of the Federation."
 
My Discovery predictions:

"There are two Andorian sexes."

"The NX-02 Columbia served with distinction for decades and Captain Erika Hernandez died in her sleep at the age of 96."

"Elias Vaughn? No, no one by that name will ever be born."

"Omne was the greatest threat the Federation ever faced."

"You have to read 533 Star Trek books before you can read Articles of the Federation."
Discovery is an alternate timeline confirmed!
 
Akiva Goldsman said in an interview just posted to IGN, that "We are aware of the books if it's useful, and if it doesn't interfere with canon, we may pick from it".
I don't how likely it is to actually happen, but I would love to see them bring some of the world building elements from the novels into the show, like the four Andorian genders and all of the stuff that KRAD established about the UFP government.
I have to wonder if Kirsten Beyer's presence in the writers' room has brought them at least a bit more awareness of the books.
 
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