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The One Thing That Annoys Me About "Star Trek Next Generation"

But she is arrogant in a way. Her strict adherence to compassion for the infirmed, above all else, is an exercise in moral superiority. Even the Hippocratic Oath recognizes the greater responsibilities to the public at large. She's a bleeding heart, & has doctor tunnel vision. I don't hate her, or anything, but I never got that impression from Pulaski
 
I dunno. I get the impression she's the type who believes in the greater purpose of doing no harm and being ready to sacrifice herself if need be to that end, hoping it would make a difference to the larger indifferent community. Is that arrogance or faith?
 
The one thing that annoys me about "Star Trek Next Generation" is that there's not enough of it to sate my appetite for this series. Seven seasons and four movies - what's that? It's a drop in the bucket. I've tried reading STAR TREK novels and they are so pedestrian. For example: "A Hard Rain" by Dean Wesley, which deals with a Dixon Hill adventure, as Captain Picard plays him. How am I supposed to subsist on fan-service of this kind? I need something far more substantive ... and substantial.
 
I agree. Barclay was the first character that I found sympathetic and relatable. Deanna Troi was particularly annoying with her constant melodrama.
never really understood the point of troi: i think she was supposed to be eye candy but not really as hot as the other startrek chicks nichols, ryan or blalock and her character never adding anything at least ohura s jjob seemd to explain to kirk and the boys meaning behind events : all i can remember of troi is her "sensing" what was painfully obvious to everyone else: was a really lame choice to make her character a ship therapist : i think the problem with beverly crusher was the actor not tje character : what i think the major problem was with the b story lines is since the first episode they set up character overlaps to use as touch points for future sub plots but then never developed them but generally i think its failure in the first few seasons was it was kind of relying on TOS kind of ok well Star trek is popular so all we need is the title star trek : there was accorsing to documentaries all type of creation problems and in the end had to just churn something out : i at first disnt like riker but later the character develops some real depth: a lot of the problems with it is when they try to echo the TOS characters the problem is that often the characters are not truly developed. But I think that has more to do with people forget how the TOS cast were already very accomplished experience actors before the series started and all had a vision of what they wanted thier character to be : also TOS had a strong social agenda and did what scifi is known for which is trying to show a mirror to contemporary issues : TNG struggled for the first few years trying to decide what it wants to do as a show . I think this is do to the creation of it taking too long and when it came out its audience was in a different place then the show most important is identifying your audience . but then again TOS failed at first too
 
never really understood the point of troi: i think she was supposed to be eye candy but not really as hot as the other startrek chicks nichols, ryan or blalock and her character never adding anything at least ohura s jjob seemd to explain to kirk and the boys meaning behind events
She could sense what potential enemy ships commanders felt. That's a huge advantage in battle.
 
yea : in theory lol : which is why stewart is an amazing acort and picard has amazing patience : when i met her or later when i met the other memebers of her species : i would have been like how come i didnt get one of the full psychics?
 
It seems pretty obvious that Troi, the "ship's counselor", was only there because Gene Roddenberry had long since gone into full-on New Age hippie psychobabble mode. Remember, this is the same man who (around the time of TMP) had actually thought that people would walk around naked all the time - the "New Humans' he often spoke of - and would need "love instructors". :guffaw: And also believed that nobody would ever mourn the death of a loved one or have any kind of personal conflicts whatsoever.

If you doubt any of this, read Gene's novelization of TMP. That should remove all ambiguity.
 
ok so its such a vital role that she should be a member of the senior staff amd have equal or greater rank than the head medical officer and have involvment in all tactical decision and while she is running around tellimg people she isnt sure what they are feeling whonis helping the people who jeed it but my bad i thought this was a forum about annouying tng things not defend the character of troi forum i have mis read the title
 
It seems pretty obvious that Troi, the "ship's counselor", was only there because Gene Roddenberry had long since gone into full-on New Age hippie psychobabble mode. Remember, this is the same man who (around the time of TMP) had actually thought that people would walk around naked all the time - the "New Humans' he often spoke of - and would need "love instructors". :guffaw: And also believed that nobody would ever mourn the death of a loved one or have any kind of personal conflicts whatsoever.

If you doubt any of this, read Gene's novelization of TMP. That should remove all ambiguity.

I have no problem with some of us walking around naked all the time, and I'd love a love instructor.

Also, Troi should have been part psychohistorian as from Asimov's Foundation series. Medicine and physics aren't the only fields that should have seemed damn near magical.
 
If there is one thing about "STAR TREK: NEXT GENERATION" that truly annoys me is the cast. Aside from Picard (sometimes) and Worf, I found the main cast to be rather dull. The problem for me is that the came off as too ideal and pretentious.

The idea of not having conflict between any character from TNG is complicated to understand to say the least. That's because nowadays it's easier to yell at somebody whenever you've got a problem that to discuss the issue propertly, learning and getting something positive about it in return.
I can see your point though, but I began to understand this matter better when I started reading the making-off notes of the series. You might notice that who creates the conflict is always an outsider, because at that time, humans are psychologically stable, strong, sane and self-confidence; so, keeping that in mind they designed the personality, abilities and background of each one (some better than others), their social interactions and the plots.
It may sounds ideal, but for me, sounds highly likely as well.
 
But she is arrogant in a way. Her strict adherence to compassion for the infirmed, above all else, is an exercise in moral superiority. Even the Hippocratic Oath recognizes the greater responsibilities to the public at large. She's a bleeding heart, & has doctor tunnel vision. I don't hate her, or anything, but I never got that impression from Pulaski
That's because the Dr. Kate Pulaski character was a 100% rip off/homage/taken from the TOS character of Dr. Leonard McCoy - right down to the 'distrusts Transporter technology' quirk. TOS characters were actually still relatable human beings unlike the politically correct constantly moralizing mannequins we got for the majority of the main characters of the TNG era.
 
Think you may be confusing the A and B storylines I would see that episode more about intro us to their relationship

An irritant I found was that they seemed to get confused with what should be the A story, and what should be the B story. For example, in the episode called The Emisarry (I think) they spent 3/4 of the episode all about Worf's relationship with Kehlar, and just the last little bit actually dealing with the main story problem of the Klingon ship coming out of suspended animation and being a threat to the Federation. While I agree that character development and relationships are important to the series, they should be told in such a way as to enhance the plot and advance it, not to slow the story down.
I seem to remember this happening a number of times. Outrageous Okona, or Manhunt, anyone?
 
If u too like me have a thing for fantasy babes online sort.. Theres a discussion im involved with in the news section on that very same topic aha.Geordi too gets in the game with that Brahms chick.. I think theres some other story line in fiction of him and her and a family too

Back to Broccoli. That was a fun line from his foray wasnt it

I like them but not enough to want to hang around with if given the option. I can't relate to any of them with the possible exception of Barclay.
 
Wuz (was) until that first episode with Remmick and that other young malcontent decided to joyride or something saying no one cared about him or somethin.. Way to go man.. Right during Remmick and Quinns hard look at the Enterprise.. Hall of Fame for that kid..



But wasn't the shuttlebay secured against unauthorized excursions? Oh right...
 
Think you may be confusing the A and B storylines I would see that episode more about intro us to their relationship
I get what you're saying, and you may be right. In that case, it's a story telling problem in what SHOULD be the A story and what SHOULD be the B story. I see Star Trek as a show that focuses on unusual and amazing concepts and ideas, using human relationships and other elements as a means of telling the story. If the relationship is the main focus of the story itself, I don't see the show as being any different than your standard soap opera.
 
Lol @ soap opera.. Sure does seem that way.. I take away more of the meaningz of a prosperous future/Genes vision of comradery and moral/ethics

I get telationship is the main focus of the story tself, I don't see the show as being any different than your standard soap opera]aying, andts as a means focus of the story itself, I don't see the show as being any different than your standard soap opera.
 
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