WB's Justice League 2017 movie pre-discussion thread

[Christopher]

Of course, it's similar to the way the '40s radio Superman constantly narrated his own actions to himself. "There! I caught the elevator cable just in time! Now to pull the car up! It must weigh tons!" Although it seems more redundant in comics, since in theory, it should be possible to tell what's going on from the pictures.

 

[Mage]

The Silver Age has something for this.

WTF......

 

[dahj]

WTF......

I think it was meant as a PSA aimed at people in the south of USA, British royalty, and the Targaryens.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

WTF......

Comic writers can be weird perverts at times.

Spoiler

Ultimate Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch - Mark Millar and Jeph Loeb

Hulk and She-Hulk in the alternate universe of Old Man Logan - again Mark Millar

Hulk and She-Hulk in the main Marvel continuity. - The story "Basic Instinct" by Paul Jenkins
Hulk went into a rage and beat up the Avengers as a way to display his "dominance" in front of She-Hulk. He wanted to "smash" She-Hulk too but she rejected him.

Nate Grey and Madelyne Pryor - The X-Man series.
Nate Grey is the alternate universe (Age of Apocalypse) son of Scott and Jean. Madelyne Pryor is the 616 clone of Jean Grey. Scott married and had a son with Madelyne, and that son was called Nathan Summers (Cable). So, genetically speaking, Nate and Madelyne are related.

The Inhuman Royal Family - Black Bolt and Medusa are cousins. I think Karnak, Triton and Gorgon also have familial ties to Black Bolt and Medusa (also Crystal). I think most Inhumans may be related to one another.

 

[Mage]

Comic writers can be weird perverts at times.

Spoiler

Ultimate Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch - Mark Millar and Jeph Loeb

Hulk and She-Hulk in the alternate universe of Old Man Logan - again Mark Millar

Hulk and She-Hulk in the main Marvel continuity. - The story "Basic Instinct" by Paul Jenkins
Hulk went into a rage and beat up the Avengers as a way to display his "dominance" in front of She-Hulk. He wanted to "smash" She-Hulk too but she rejected him.

Nate Grey and Madelyne Pryor - The X-Man series.
Nate Grey is the alternate universe (Age of Apocalypse) son of Scott and Jean. Madelyne Pryor is the 616 clone of Jean Grey. Scott married and had a son with Madelyne, and that son was called Nathan Summers (Cable). So, genetically speaking, Nate and Madelyne are related.

The Inhuman Royal Family - Black Bolt and Medusa are cousins. I think Karnak, Triton and Gorgon also have familial ties to Black Bolt and Medusa (also Crystal). I think most Inhumans may be related to one another.

Damn Marvel.......

 

[JD]

The majority of movie audiences--and/or audiences specifically interested in superhero films (more than likely) do not watch those TV series, so the film productions are free to use any plot they choose. Much like most MCU fans do not care about whatever is happening in Agents of SHIELD.

The movies can, but I have a feeling if one of the TV series wanted to do a plot that was similar to what they were planning on doing in one of the upcoming movies, they'd probably ask them not to do it. It's the same reason they used to do the character bans.
I find it hard to believe there isn't a lot of crossover between the shows and the movies. Yeah, a lot more people watch the movies than the shows, but I would be surprised if a lot of the people who watch the shows didn't also watch the movies.
The only real exceptions I could maybe see would be stuff that is a significant part of the character's backstory, for instance if we got a Wonder Woman show, I'm pretty sure we'd still start out with Diana growing up on Themyscira, and finding Steve Trevor once she's an adult. They'd probably set it in the modern day and give us a different villain from Ares though, so that would probably differentiate it quite a bit from the movie.

Damn Marvel.......

Well, DC did have the whole thing with Hal Jordan and the underage girl. There were also several other instances of them indicating Superman and Supergirl should hook up, I know at least one had a computer that was supposed to pick a person's perfect mate, and it picked Supergirl for Superman.

 

[kirk55555]

Comic writers can be weird perverts at times.

Spoiler

Ultimate Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch - Mark Millar and Jeph Loeb

Hulk and She-Hulk in the alternate universe of Old Man Logan - again Mark Millar

Hulk and She-Hulk in the main Marvel continuity. - The story "Basic Instinct" by Paul Jenkins
Hulk went into a rage and beat up the Avengers as a way to display his "dominance" in front of She-Hulk. He wanted to "smash" She-Hulk too but she rejected him.

Nate Grey and Madelyne Pryor - The X-Man series.
Nate Grey is the alternate universe (Age of Apocalypse) son of Scott and Jean. Madelyne Pryor is the 616 clone of Jean Grey. Scott married and had a son with Madelyne, and that son was called Nathan Summers (Cable). So, genetically speaking, Nate and Madelyne are related.

The Inhuman Royal Family - Black Bolt and Medusa are cousins. I think Karnak, Triton and Gorgon also have familial ties to Black Bolt and Medusa (also Crystal). I think most Inhumans may be related to one another.

Spoiler

Oh, wow. I knew about Mark Miller's incestuous Hulk-She-Hulk in that garbage Old Man Logan comic, but I didn't know about Paul Jenkins trying that shit in the normal continuity. Looking up his work the few things I've read of his I thought were almost all trash except his Inhumans book (which I did like and even own the motion comic of), but I'll probably avoid him if he ever returns to mainstream comics.

Also, I just have to say screw Mark Millar, just as a general sentiment. He did one or two good things, but between Old Man Logan and his work in the Ultimate Universe the guy is just out of his mind.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The movies can, but I have a feeling if one of the TV series wanted to do a plot that was similar to what they were planning on doing in one of the upcoming movies, they'd probably ask them not to do it.

The producers of Agents of SHIELD had to get permission even to mention HYDRA pre-Winter Soldier, and were forbidden to do their LMD story until after Age of Ultron.

 

[Ovation]

The movies can, but I have a feeling if one of the TV series wanted to do a plot that was similar to what they were planning on doing in one of the upcoming movies, they'd probably ask them not to do it. It's the same reason they used to do the character bans.
I find it hard to believe there isn't a lot of crossover between the shows and the movies. Yeah, a lot more people watch the movies than the shows, but I would be surprised if a lot of the people who watch the shows didn't also watch the movies.
The only real exceptions I could maybe see would be stuff that is a significant part of the character's backstory, for instance if we got a Wonder Woman show, I'm pretty sure we'd still start out with Diana growing up on Themyscira, and finding Steve Trevor once she's an adult. They'd probably set it in the modern day and give us a different villain from Ares though, so that would probably differentiate it quite a bit from the movie.
Well, DC did have the whole thing with Hal Jordan and the underage girl. There were also several other instances of them indicating Superman and Supergirl should hook up, I know at least one had a computer that was supposed to pick a person's perfect mate, and it picked Supergirl for Superman.

To be fair (I'm feeling nit picky--nothing personal), I believe the computer that picked a mate picked a "Superwoman" and the story was published before Supergirl was created as a character (though the "Superwoman" looked remarkably like a slightly older version of Supergirl). However, it has been nearly 40 years since I read the comic, so I could be completely out to lunch here.

 

[The Old Mixer]

To be fair (I'm feeling nit picky--nothing personal), I believe the computer that picked a mate picked a "Superwoman" and the story was published before Supergirl was created as a character (though the "Superwoman" looked remarkably like a slightly older version of Supergirl). However, it has been nearly 40 years since I read the comic, so I could be completely out to lunch here.

Actually, it's from the same story as the panels above...Supergirl's trying to play matchmaker and finds the Superwoman character via Fortress computer.
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Action_Comics_Vol_1_289
Noteworthy for being an early appearance of the Adult Legion, and for establishing through their future marriage the relationship between Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl.

 

[Ovation]

I stand corrected.

 

[Turtletrekker]

A Variety piece on the reshoots...

A few highlights...

Then there is the question of crediting. Joss Whedon has now spent months overseeing the project, but he will not receive a co-directing credit, according to an insider. Whedon stepped in to handle the reshoots and finish the film this spring after director Zack Snyder publicly excused himself from the project, following his daughter’s suicide in March. Whedon won’t just be rewarded with a fat paycheck. He may also get a producing credit or a screenplay credit.

Sources say “Justice League” reshoots have been used to punch up the dialogue.

“Justice League” is spending the kind of time and money on reshoots that mid-budget films would have to shoot an entire movie. However, this is no longer an anomaly. Major studio movies have become so complicated and expensive, and are often key parts in sprawling franchises, that companies will spend lavishly, even late in the production, to ensure that audiences come out in force.

 

[kirk55555]

I can definitely see Whedon coming in to "punch up" the dialog. He's almost always very good at interesting and/or snappy dialog, and I can see the movie needing help in that department based how the other Snyder directed movies handled dialog.

 

[LJones41]

Sources say “Justice League” reshoots have been used to punch up the dialogue.

Oh no! I hope they're not referring to the snappy one-liners from the MCU films that have becoming increasingly annoying to me.

Whedon won’t just be rewarded with a fat paycheck. He may also get a producing credit or a screenplay credit.

What the hell is Whedon getting a producing credit for? All he did was did some nip and tuck to the screenplay and finished the post-production. That's all. What the hell is Warner Bros. doing? I'm just so disgusted with all of this.

 

[Turtletrekker]

^

It's a movie. Relax for God's sake.

 

[Tosk]

"Sources say" "may"

And even if it happens, so what? Hardly worth getting into a twist over.

 

[Gaith]

Cousin marriages... producing credits... mustaches... goddamnit, we're all overlooking the big, important question regarding this film:

Are we going to get follow-through and resolution
on Lex's experimental bullets or not?!​

 

[The Lensman]

Cousin marriages... producing credits... mustaches... goddamnit, we're all overlooking the big, important question regarding this film:

Are we going to get follow-through and resolution
on Lex's experimental bullets or not?!​

The only important question relevant to your post is if you're going to update your Photobucket account. Can't see the pic. XD

 

[dahj]

we're all overlooking the big, important question

When will people finally move on from photobucket?

 

[Turtletrekker]

The only important question relevant to your post is if you're going to update your Photobucket account. Can't see the pic. XD

Photo*ucket is done. The only reason I ever started an account there in the first place was because it was free. They don't offer any services there that I consider to be worth paying for.