The New Klingons

[UssGlenn]

I'm reasonably sure that we are going to see Klingons from other houses that resemble the TOS and TNG style. That would allow them to get creative with the new Klingons, and show how different the factions are.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Imagine if they used to be a race of docile nerds, everyone was a scientist and an intellectual, but then something happened...

The Hur'q came along and kicked over their sandcastles, then they went to the gym, bulked up and learned fisticuffs.

The rest is, as they say, history.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

The Hur'q came along and kicked over their sandcastles, then they went to the gym, bulked up and learned fisticuffs.

The rest is, as they say, history.

So they were the ones who sent away for that book that was advertised in comic books?

 

[fireproof78]

I'm not looking for any kind of augmentation explanation -- either appearance-wise or behavior-wise.

First of all, I never had an issue with the look of the Klingons magically changing between TOS and TMP without explanation; that was fine with me. In fact, I thought it was pretty cool that they changed the entire look without explanation. I suppose back then, we were much less worried about changes like that.

Secondly, I would rather them do things to give a greater understanding to the Klingon behavior as we know it from TOS/TNG/etc. I don't need them to give me a reason that their behavior was once different, then "changed", but rather give as a deeper look at Klingons that fits in well with what we already know.

I think both can be achieved. One does not preclude the other.

 

[Psion]

So they were the ones who sent away for that book that was advertised in comic books?

It certainly wasn't me ... I kept making up stories in my head about how I got amazing powers instead. That was good enough.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

So they were the ones who sent away for that book that was advertised in comic books?

And while they were at it, the x-ray specs. Probably why they're so mad all the time.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

It certainly wasn't me ... I kept making up stories in my head about how I got amazing powers instead. That was good enough.

I used to try and figure out how to sell a lot of seeds to get the slot car set or train set!

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

The Hur'q came along and kicked over their sandcastles, then they went to the gym, bulked up and learned fisticuffs.

The rest is, as they say, history.

And got the bikini babe. You forgot about the babe.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

And got the bikini babe. You forgot about the babe.

You're right! Let me make up for my oversight.

 

[Kor]

The more I compare, the more similarities I see between these Klingons and the guy from Star Trek: Into Darkness...

No hair whatsoever, not even eyebrows: check.
Weirdly shaped head with prominent ridges going all the way back: check.
Funky ridged and pointed ears: check.
Prominent nose-piece makeup appliance: check.

These new Klingons have some weird texturing on the front of their necks, too, and bony prominence below the eyes. Not to mention that sickly, pasty zombie complexion that many of them seem to have.

Kor

 

[Tuskin38]

the NuKlingon skin might work differently from Humans.

 

[Prax]

the NuKlingon skin might work differently from Humans.

You mean like when they get aroused, their skin gets darker?

 

[Prax]

The more I compare, the more similarities I see between these Klingons and the guy from Star Trek: Into Darkness...

No hair whatsoever, not even eyebrows: check.
Weirdly shaped head with prominent ridges going all the way back: check.
Funky ridged and pointed ears: check.
Prominent nose-piece makeup appliance: check.

These new Klingons have some weird texturing on the front of their necks, too, and bony prominence below the eyes. Not to mention that sickly, pasty zombie complexion that many of them seem to have.

Kor

I thought some had hair.

Ok. Here's what JJ and Discovery got wrong...Klingons don't have ears! What's with all these eared klingins?

 

[BillJ]

If these are the Klingons going forward, it seems that they have recessive genes where the skull shape is concerned. Because none of the mixed-race characters we've seen have had the elongated skull.

 

[Kor]

Maybe this is a particular cult that practices cranial deformation in early childhood, much like certain traditional tribal cultures on Earth.

Kor

 

[Roald]

If these are the Klingons going forward, it seems that they have recessive genes where the skull shape is concerned. Because none of the mixed-race characters we've seen have had the elongated skull.

http://discovery.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=805&fullsize=1http://discovery.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=805&fullsize=1

Are we sure they even have elongated skulls?

 

[C57D]

That's not canon though, what you just said.


It's not...

I used to think that canon had some value in ST. Now I know it is just what appears on screen UNLESS and UNTIL it gets overidden by a newer version of something shown in screen. I just find it funny that it is always the newer version that supplants the older and not vice versa?
"For everything (turn turn turn) there is a season (turn turn turn)".

 

[SeamusShameless]

http://discovery.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=805&fullsize=1http://discovery.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=805&fullsize=1

Are we sure they even have elongated skulls?

Some of them have elongated skulls, some not so much. I think the elongated skull might be a female characteristic. Seems like all of the ones I've seen with the clearly elongated skull have been female.

 

[INACTIVEUSS Einstein]

Goddamn! Those guys back then were really talented with designing stuff! That looks great 50 years later... and was done on a budget and limitations nobody today would make a half-hour comedy show with...

I can get why people love to re-design and re-imagine things. But still, those new klingon ships? Their design isn't even close as brilliant, simplistic and iconic as this one. Thank you for posting that!

A million times this.

They wanted ships to be easily recognisable by their silhouette, so that they would never be mistaken for anything else.

The new designs.... From the blurry image looked generic.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

If these are the Klingons going forward, it seems that they have recessive genes where the skull shape is concerned. Because none of the mixed-race characters we've seen have had the elongated skull.

And that's the thing. When we saw the TMP Klingons, despite the "no budget in the 60's" reasoning, a lot of us just figured the TOS Klingons might be half human.

Little did we know ENT would go ahead and explain it with "human supergenes".

There's no reason some Klingons can't have a mixed species thing going on. Most likely they're from a different planet in the empire, so that's why we didn't see them before.