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The New Klingons
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Right now, i'm not feeling the new look for the Klingons...
We'll see in a couple of months when i see them in action in the show...
Yeah, they are present day Klingons, but that specific House is using Uniforms inspired by Ancient designs.
The ancient angle is still there, just not in the way some think it is.
I do wonder about if there is going to be a mix of Klingons? Because, the sarcophagus proper (and not the ship itself) is a different aspect of Klingon culture, in that the dead body is now preserved.
Any mention of the fleet of Klingon ships we saw in the new trailer, none of which look anything like Klingon ships of past or future in Trek? Many of which are completely enormous?
I was kinda expecting the rest of the Klingon fleet to look a little more traditional, but good on them having the guts to completely re-imagine everything.
I was kinda expecting the rest of the Klingon fleet to look a little more traditional, but good on them having the guts to completely re-imagine everything.
Quite difficult to tell relative scale but there seems to be one enormous Negh'var type command ship and then some smaller ships, maybe Vor'cha equivalents and birds of prey. Certainly much more variety than we saw in TOS. I don't think we even got two Klingon ships at the same time until TMP did we?
I love the look of this new race of klingon. The armor looks amazing as well. I was tired of the typical metal, leather and long hair.
A few things I took away from the second trailer:
-We see Shenzou firing on a ship with a definite shape of a Klingon Bird of Prey!
-The sarcophagus ship has a definite ancient Klingon shape, really a forerunner of the D-7.
-T'Kuvma seemed to speak in a way I was hoping for. A little smoother vocal delivery than the throat-ripping raspiness that the TNG era made the Klingons into.
From the Comic Con panel, Gretchen Berg said that the Klingons would be speaking completely in Klingon, which I'm looking forward to seeing!
-We see Shenzou firing on a ship with a definite shape of a Klingon Bird of Prey!
-The sarcophagus ship has a definite ancient Klingon shape, really a forerunner of the D-7.
-T'Kuvma seemed to speak in a way I was hoping for. A little smoother vocal delivery than the throat-ripping raspiness that the TNG era made the Klingons into.
From the Comic Con panel, Gretchen Berg said that the Klingons would be speaking completely in Klingon, which I'm looking forward to seeing!
As sci-fi fans, we have come to expect alien cultures to be monolithic, even though we humans are not.
We have gotten different hints of Klingon cultural practices surrounding death. In TNG, the dead body was considered just an empty shell to throw away unceremoniously. But in STIV:TVH, Spock's pop quiz included a Klingon mummification glyph. This isn't contradictory as some might think. It makes more sense that there would be a wide range of practices and beliefs, and that such things would change over time.
As for the new Klingon ships, I guess they're kind of interesting in a way. But they look so much like a million other spiny ships that we've seen in recent sci-fi.
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I completely agree. In my opinion, the new Klingons provide the opportunity to exactly explore this entire culture, any species under their rule, as well as their reaction to the Augment virus. For all we know, these Klingons are genetically engineered to try and reverse the process and things got out of hand.
This is one of the few times that I actually want to see more of the Klingons and not less, which is how I felt by the end of DS9.
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I agree with you. There were times in TNG where it was getting out of hand ("Don't worry, Mr. Worf, we'll clear your family's name even if we divert course from saving billions of lives from a supernova!")
But in this instance, we get to see what ramps up into episodes of TOS that have some unanswered questions.
Well one of the non cost related reasons for doing humanlike aliens is that it is much easier for a human audience to relate, and easier for the actor if they're not buried in makeup. One of the reasons I love the design of the Cardassians is that they had enough makeup to seem pretty shown while keeping the majority of the actors emotive face area free of prosthetics. Really helped with the performances.
Not technically Klingon, but it was the same model: three Romulan D7s surrounded the Enterprise in "The Enterprise Incident." In TOS-R, that become two Rommie D7s and a Bird of Prey.
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^ And the remastered D7s had Romulan markings on the hulls, didn't they?
The Cardassians are easily one of my favorite races specifically because of the reasons you cite. That was a gorgeous design that was a lot more involved than the 'forehead disease' quip about makeup in that era deserved.
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