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Again, 1970s/80s violence was not as strict as you're saying at all. The aforementioned series (SWAT, Starsky & Hutch, Police Story, etc.) and other series were violent. In addition to active gunplay (deaths), beatings, bombings & stabbings, TV series featured numerous stories borrowed from the headlines dealing with snipers, strangler/rapists, groups based on terrorists such as the Weather Underground, the Manson family, etc.
 
And this was the beginning of the Reagan Era, so violence was in style and was actually marketable. There was an Aaron Spelling cop show around this time-- which luckily didn't last long-- called Strike Force that was intended to jump on the violence bandwagon, and used the fact in its advertising.
 
Even though the FCC concept of the "family hour" was short-lived—1975–77—networks tended to put less violent shows on earlier. But Hulk ran in the 9 p.m. non-kiddie slot in its first season before going to 8 in subsequent seasons. S.W.A.T. and Kojak and Starsky and Hutch were all on after 9pm.
 
Well, even Christopher Reeves's Superman never threw a punch, so probably was the default for superheroes' movies/tv shows in the 70s...
 
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The Incredible Hulk
"The Harder They Fall"
Originally aired March 27, 1981
David survives an automobile accident—but is told he will be paralyzed from the waist down for the rest of his life.
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Events in the news in the weeks since the previous episode:
March 17 – In Italy the Propaganda Due Masonic Lodge is discovered.
March 19 – Three workers are killed and 5 injured during a test of the Space Shuttle Columbia.



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"You Better You Bet," The Who
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(#18 US; #1 Rock; #9 UK)

"Too Much Time on My Hands," Styx
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"Watching the Wheels," John Lennon
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(#10 US; #6 AC; #25 Rock; #30 UK)

And remember our old friend Michael Roark, Kung Fu Detective? Looks like he's bouncing back from not getting that spin-off...

"Jessie's Girl," Rick Springfield
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(#1 US the weeks of Aug. 1 and 8; #10 Rock; #43 UK)

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Since I'm heading to Shore Leave tomorrow, I guess I might as well post my Incredible Hulk review early:

“The Harder They Fall”: I remember liking this one in the past, but it doesn’t age well. It’s too much your standard Very Special Episode that tries to be positive in its depiction of people with disabilities but ends up being a bit condescending by calling attention to their difference, and by having the hero briefly experience the world from their perspective but then get to go back to his normal life at the end. I guess by the standards of its time, it was a fairly progressive portrayal, but it comes off as preachy now.

I guess it’s kind of significant as the one time we clearly see David (in his right mind) consider deliberately triggering a metamorphosis in order to get out of a jam. But it’s just a brief flirtation with the idea that he quickly discards, so it hardly even counts. And in a larger sense, this premise makes David seem rather selfish. As the doctor said, the regenerative power of Dr. Banner’s little discovery could do wonders for many patients, and yet David keeps it secret from the world. Granted, he has reason to be worried about the dangers that come with it, as was spelled out in his debates with Dr. Cabot in “Bring Me the Head of the Hulk,” but dangers can be mitigated with proper precautions and responsible research. So it comes off as kind of selfish for him to keep his miracle cure to himself.

Seeing the Hulk incapacitated for once was kind of interesting, although it seems they cheated a bit by giving him too much mobility in his legs. I mean, throwing heavy objects like he did would seem to require putting the leg muscles into it, maintaining a strong stance and such. Also, it’s hard to believe that in all those weeks of physical therapy and relearning how to move, he never experienced enough pain and frustration to trigger a Startling Metamorphosis, or never had a nightmare sufficient to do so.
 
New on the charts in those weeks (I'm calling RJD approving of our first selection):
You are so right. :D

"You Better You Bet," The Who
Yep, The Who were still in fine form in the 80s (I mean, it's not "Baba O'Reilly," but it's still classic Rock'n'Roll).

"Too Much Time on My Hands," Styx
This is pretty good. I like Styx and, while this isn't their best work, it's decent and has the added advantage of nostalgia.

"Watching the Wheels," John Lennon
Same as before. This is the new John Lennon, coming back after some time away, more interested in waxing poetic about his peaceful, domestic life-- which is about to end tragically.

"Jessie's Girl," Rick Springfield
This is just awful, but the point is probably moot. Haha. Yeah, this is bad, but hilariously bad, and we must somehow say "the point is probably moot" every time the subject of Rick Springfield comes up. :rommie:
 
"You Better You Bet," The Who

The versatility of Pete Townshend. The Who weathered the sudden passing of Keith Moon nearly three years earlier, with the group moving in a direction very much of the times, yet sounded natural, instead of some older acts shaming themselves by trying to be "New Wave" or...whatever.

"Too Much Time on My Hands," Styx

Always a catchy song. The album spawning this track (Paradise Theatre), covered so many musical styles, as you're all aware of the other big hit--"The Best of Times"--which was as different from "Too Much Time on My Hands" as you can imagine.

"Watching the Wheels," John Lennon

Unlike the rest of his last recordings, this one had a style evocative of his early solo work (IOW, somewhat listenable), sans the 80s engineering leaning, of course.

And remember our old friend Michael Roark, Kung Fu Detective? Looks like he's bouncing back from not getting that spin-off...

"Jessie's Girl," Rick Springfield

Hey, mock him as much as you like, but he did win the 1981 Grammy for Best Male Rock Vocal Performance, so that probably eased the pain of losing that spin-off. Since TIH ends its run in 1982, your music reviews will not get to Springfield's 1984 Star Wars-meets-Road Warrior video supporting the epic (ahem) "Bop 'Til You Drop"--

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So typically tacky 80s production!
 
You are so right. :D
'Twas my impression that you'd never met a Who song you didn't like.

This is pretty good. I like Styx and, while this isn't their best work, it's decent and has the added advantage of nostalgia.
I always liked this one...it's a fun song.

Unlike the rest of his last recordings, this one had a style evocative of his early solo work (IOW, somewhat listenable)
I guess that depends on what you're considering his early solo work. There were the experimental albums with Yoko, e.g., Two Virgins. His first proper music album was Plastic Ono Band, which is a masterpiece, but not light listening. I have a feeling that you're thinking of Imagine. But the next one after that is Some Time in New York City, which is crapity-crap that I only own because I'm that much of a completist.

Hey, mock him as much as you like, but he did win the 1981 Grammy for Best Male Rock Vocal Performance, so that probably eased the pain of losing that spin-off.
I wasn't mocking him, just providing a facetious intro that tied in with his appearance on the show. RJD's the one who doesn't like it, I'm rather fond of Rick's singles in this era (which doesn't go as far as the one that you posted). But the point is probably moot.
 
Hey, mock him as much as you like, but he did win the 1981 Grammy for Best Male Rock Vocal Performance, so that probably eased the pain of losing that spin-off. Since TIH ends its run in 1982, your music reviews will not get to Springfield's 1984 Star Wars-meets-Road Warrior video supporting the epic (ahem) "Bop 'Til You Drop"--

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So typically tacky 80s production!
Haha, that was so goofy, and cheesy I can't help but enjoy it.
 
Hey, mock him as much as you like,
Okay. :D

So typically tacky 80s production!
They don't make 'em like that no more. :rommie: Which, when you think about it, is kind of a shame.....

'Twas my impression that you'd never met a Who song you didn't like.
That's about the size of it.

I wasn't mocking him, just providing a facetious intro that tied in with his appearance on the show. RJD's the one who doesn't like it, I'm rather fond of Rick's singles in this era (which doesn't go as far as the one that you posted). But the point is probably moot.
Actually, I kind of enjoy it in its badness.

Haha, that was so goofy, and cheesy I can't help but enjoy it.
That kind of sums up the 80s, at least in retrospect. :rommie:
 
The Incredible Hulk--
"The Harder They Fall"


When a car's blown tire loses control, David Blackwell is struck, sending him slamming into parked cars, unconscious. Transported to a hospital, David endures surgery at the hands of Dr. Hart, who immobilizes David's spine thanks to severity of his injuries. David is stunned to discover he has no feeling anywhere below the center of his chest....

Three weeks later, Dr. Hart observes David had some sensory improvement, but not much else where nerve regeneration is concerned, leading to the terrible conclusion that Banner will remain paralyzed.

Dr. Hart: "You're gonna be crippled, David. I'm sorry. Are you sure there isn't anybody that you want me to contact? Your friends? Your family?"
David: "No."

Understandably, David is bitter at the idea of being confined to beds and wheelchairs for the rest of his life, and dismisses any cheery encouragement from his nurse. Later, David is moved to Ward 4-- a rehabilitation area for amputees, paraplegics, and others in similar conditions. Banner closes himself off from everyone, taking on a cold, snarky attitude with Dr. Hart & his therapist nurse, Judy. A patient named Paul Corton wheels over to David, trying to support him in this time of adjustment. David--still resistant--needs more time. During therapy, David struggles just to move his upper body, becomes angry, then snaps at Judy, demanding to return to his room.

In a moment of self-pity, Banner thinks of the freedom he once had to run, but has an epiphany of sorts: remembering his conversations with Elaina Marks about the advanced healing of his bullet wound, and explaining to Katie Maxwell (during his "Demi-Hulk" phase) how his transformations are triggered, David breaks his drinking glass, reasoning that a forced Hulk-out will take advantage of his system's amazing regenerative, healing properties. Just as he's about to slam his hand on the broken glass, his ever-solid conscience forces him to recall the Hulk's many acts of destruction, including a radio report mentioning how fortunate it was that no one was killed. The Hulk's violent unpredictability cannot be used to heal his body. David has to resign himself to being paralyzed.

Paul Corton visits David again, giving him a little backstory--that despite losing his girlfriend, he is still set to turn his dream (expecting a federal loan to re-open his sporting goods store) into reality. In other words, disability does not need to stop David from living. That evening, as the others in his ward play basketball, David tries to move his body to a wheelchair, but falls to the floor, injuring his shoulder. Soon, Paul returns and instead of assuming David welcomes help, he asks, with David finally accepting it. Paul guides David through the task of managing the "extra" weight as he pulls himself up and to the bed. For the first time since his injury, David cracks a smile.

Over time, David makes progress with physical therapy and the support of Paul & Julie, even to the point of protecting himself if his wheelchair rolled without his control, and building his upper body strength enough to climb rope. Paul shows David his few belongings from his athletic past, including a starter pistol used to kick off a wheelchair race with David & two others. Banner loses, but his mindset has improved to a considerable degree.

That evening, Paul & David relax at a bar, where Paul explains that he was disabled from a fall after rescuing a child from the apartment above his burning sporting goods store. Before he can finish, a few drunken patrons spot the men and laugh at what Paul calls their "freak show." One walks over offering to buy them drinks (thinking David & Paul are disabled veterans). Paul bristles at one of the men tossing a wad of money on the table as an act of charity. Unable to ignore what he sees as disrespectful "charity", Paul stuffs the money in the man's pocket, and insults him, leading the man to become aggressive, but held back by the bartender. A fight breaks out, with the commotion knocking David down a flight of stairs--triggering a Hulk-out. Failing to comprehend why he cannot stand, the frustrated creature pounds on his useless legs, until his rapidly regenerating system begins to heal his spine, allowing him to shamble upstairs to the bar. The sight of the Hulk sends the drunks running, except Paul--frightened at what has happened to David. The Hulk falls--his spine not completely healed--which cranks up his anger, as he destroys the rest of the bar before stumbling out of a shattered door...

The following day, Dr. Hart studies a new X-Ray of David's spine and cannot understand the evidence of advance healing; David skirts by this by suggesting his tumble (at the bar) had something to do with it, but Hart is unsure. David has regained some movement in his legs and feet, leading Hart to He wonder if there's something about his regeneration that could help other disabled patients...

Catching up with David, Paul canot help but feel great about what's happening to David.

At the bar, McGee learns the man who was in the basement with the Hulk was accompanied by Paul--a resident of a local hospital...

Paul receives the government letter, only it is not the loan he so desired--its a rejection letter--

"Due to the recent tax cut, our funds have been greatly reduced. We regret that we are unable to grant your loan request."

Paul retreats to the gym, fighting through his frustrations with an agressive workout. David tries to ease his mind, but Paul is already looking at options--of returning to East Valley Savings--the bank responsible for his original loan. As he dresses for his appointment, McGee calls, making the usual offer of $10,000 in exchange for you-know-what. Paul scribbles down McGee's number, but heads to the bank, where he is--in what is now tradition--rejected. Paul accuses the bank of discriminating against him because he's disabled, wheels himself to the door, only to be disgusted by his own reflection. Returning to the hospital, Paul flings his belongings around the room, until he comes across the note with McGee's contact information....

Paul: "Yeah, Mr. McGee, I was in that bar--"
McGee: "And you saw what happened?"
Paul: "Listen...I got a story for you."
McGee: "Yeah, I was hoping you would. Now, the man that you were with..."
Paul: "Mr. McGee, I'm giving you MY story."
McGee: "Yeah, fine...okay...what happened in the bar?"
Paul: "I'm talking about something else. I'm talking about people. People who get the short end of the stick just because they sit in wheelchairs or walk with braces! Do you have any idea what that means?!?"
McGee: "Uh...yeah, I think I do, and I'm very sorry. But what I really need to know about is the other night."
Paul: (not appreciating the brush off) "Mr. McGee, don't give me a song and dance. Just because a person's legs are crippled doesn't mean his mind is, or his feelings! People gotta learn that!!"
McGee: "Yeah--I'm sure you're right, Mr. Corton, uh, look, maybe I could get somebody on my paper to do a-a feature on this."
Paul: "I'm tired of maybes! I want someone to listen now!!"
McGee: "W-well fine, good. I could be over there in a couple of minutes! You tell me what I need to know, and I'll do everything I can to get your story printed. "
Paul: "My story first, Mr. McGee! "
McGee: "Well I'm not in the position to make that kind of a promise!"
Paul: "Of course not."

Paul hangs up on McGee. Feeling he has no options, he places the starter gun in his briefcase and leaves, passing David (walking with braces) along the way--

David: "The bank turned you down."
Paul: "Good guess."
David: "I'm really sorry. Where are you going?"
Paul: "Back to reapply. I've got something that might persuade them."
David: "What do you mean?"
Paul: "I've been fooling myself, David. Government, banks...people don't want to know about me. About cripples. Even my old girlfriend--what I told you was bull. We never would have broken up if it hadn't have been for this! And you know something else? I'm getting tired of the whole deal. I'm gonna turn some heads around. You watch the news tonight. "
David: "Paul, what's in the briefcase?"
Paul: "They say I'm not qualified for a loan. They'll see how qualified I am when I rob their bank."
David: "Oh, come on, Paul, that's not going to help!"
Paul: "I'm gonna give the money back on local TV. All I want is the publicity."
David: "But its not worth the risk!"
Paul: "Hey, its just a starter's gun--nobody's gonna get hurt."
David: "Really? Well, bank guards don't happen to use starter's guns!"
Paul: "I'll take my chances. Either way, people'll listen."
David: "Paul, this isn't the way to do it!"
Paul: "You gonna tell me the way? You're on your feet, man, and I'm still in this chair! You gonna tell me what to do??"
David: "Oh, come on, Paul! Paul!"

David is stopped cold as he sees McGee drive up, parking in the handicapped space. Trying to blow off the complaints of the orderly, McGee leaves his keys in the ignition. David (hiding behind an ambulance) waits for McGee to enter the hospital, then strains to walk to McGee's car, using his cane to control the gas & brake pedals. Banner carefully drives off, in pursuit of Paul, but it is slow going, with his attention split between the road and the makeshift control. An irate driver tailgates David's car, relentlessly blowing his horn; David tries to drive off, but his compromised skills lead to a near miss with another car, forcing him to hit the brakes--and suffer a rear-end collision courtesy of the angry driver. David's head snaps violently, triggering a Hulk-out. The Hulk kicks the door away, knowing he's regained full control of his legs. Not forgetting the angry driver, the Hulk delivers an overhead blow to the driver's truck, with a force that smashes the car to the ground, while tearing the wheels from the axle.

At East Valley Savings, Paul is seconds away from pulling his starter's pistol, when the Hulk crashes in, sending Paul's briefcase out of a window, and carrying Paul away, ending his would-be bank robbing.

Sometime later, a fully recovered David is back on the road, stopping at a phone booth to bid farewell to Paul--

Paul: "Yeah, that McGee's really been on my tail. You know, David, it doesn't take a genius to figure out you're tied in with that creature. What's it all about?"
David: "I wish I could tell you, but I can't"
Paul: "That's cool. I won't put you or that green thing on the spot. Stopped me from doing something pretty stupid."
David: "So, what's your plan?"
Paul: "Oh, work here till I get the money together. What about you?"
David: "Not sure."
Paul: "You're a lucky man, walking again. I won't deny I'm jealous...well, envious, anyway. But at least my shoes last a long time. Will you keep in touch?"
David: "I'll try."

McGee walks in Paul's room, with the most sour look on his face, as if he's been cheated out of something.

David moves on...

NOTES:

A fairly significant condition-related episode.

The series was great with its own continuity legitimately supporting stories going forward, as seen with Banner seeking the keys to recovery by recalling conversations from the pilot and "Prometheus".

This is one of the few episodes where David spent a good amount of time in one location, aside from the pilot, "Married" and "Homecoming".

"The Harder They Fall"
was anything other than a so-called "Very Special Episode". Anyone making such a claim--and let's just say (for the sake of example) he or she dives head-first in support of certain present-day fantasy series where every episode is (in one way or another) yelling from the PSA soapbox (in the most immature manner), then I suggest...well, to modify a line from Luke Skywalker:

"If truth is the center of the universe, that person's on the planet that it's farthest from."

The story--and Bixby--effectively illustrated the process of grief, self-pity, denial and struggle for one losing any control of their body as well as any actor not suffering from a disability could. Bixby was never coming up short on the range of mature emotions for any given circumstance, so he's not groping for the right feeling, or applying certain emotions which would not naturally fit the character and his plight. Never a wasted Bixby moment.

Dr. Hart imagines whatever is responsible for David's miraculous regenerative system might help others, but David--being an ethical man (not to mention doctor)--would not be so foolish as to ever use any part of his system (whether in the form of another strength/regeneration experiment using radiation or not) to test on others in any way, as one, its patently dangerous and more importantly, his condition was the result of a massive gamma radiation overdose--that level, one that makes a Hulk possible at all, is the only reason the series has David heal from otherwise dangerous or life-threatening injuries. However, if Banner himself cannot fully understand the cause and process of all things Hulk, there's no way he would ever experiment on others.

Additionally, if we look at the case of another kind of strength/regeneration experiment using radiation, Dr. Clive's sun chart did not seem to match anything comparable to what David was exposed to at the Culver Institute, but the results were disastrous enough with the creation of another Hulk-like monster. In "Married", when Carolyn thought she could somehow use Banner's regenerative properties to save herself, David was naturally hesitant, for every reason listed here, as he would be if faced with that idea at any other time.


GUEST CAST:

Denny Miller (Paul Corton) returns to TIH. Previously, he was the main guest of "Killer Instinct" from TIH's second season. Miller is also remembered for being cinema's first blonde Tarzan in Tarzan, the Ape Man (MGM, 1959) and his send up as an actor fooling the Gilligan's Island castaways into thinking he was Tongo, the Ape Man, in the 1967 episode "Our Vines Have Tender Apes"--

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Other Miller roles--
  • The Girl from U.N.C.L.E. (NBC, 1966) - "The Atlantis Affair"
  • The Island at the Top of the World (Walt Disney Productions, 1974)
  • Six Million Dollar Man (ABC, 1974/1975) "The Pal-Mir Escort" and "Target in the Sky"
  • Wonder Woman (CBS, 1977) "The Pied Piper"
  • Battlestar Galactica (ABC, 1978) - "Gun on Ice Planet Zero" (two parts),
  • Beyond Westworld (CBS, 1980) - "My Brother's Keeper"
  • Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (NBC, 1981) - "The Dorian Secret"
  • Voyagers! (NBC, 1982) - "An Arrow Pointing East"
  • V (NBC, 1984) - appearing in all episodes of the miniseries
  • Werewolf (FOX, 1987) - "Nightwatch"
Peter Hobbs (Dr. Hart)--
  • Out There (CBS, 1951) - "The Man"
  • Suspense (CBS, 1953) - "The Kiss-Off"
  • The Web (CBS, 1952) - "The Brass Ring" & "RX Death"
  • The Invaders (ABC, 1967) - "Summit Meeting: Part 1"
  • The Andromeda Strain (Universal, 1971)
  • Sleeper (United Artists, 1973)
  • The Nine Lives of Fritz the Cat (AIP, 1974) - voices
  • Wizards (20th Century Fox, 1977) - voices
  • Salvage 1 (ABC, 1979) - "Harry's Doll"
  • The Man with Two Brains (Warner Brothers, 1983)
  • The Twilight Zone (CBS, 1986) - "To See the Invisible Man"
 
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Dr. Hart imagines whatever is responsible for David's miraculous regenerative system might help others, but David--being an ethical man (not to mention doctor)--would not be so foolish as to ever use any part of his system (whether in the form of another strength/regeneration experiment using radiation or not) to test on others in any way, as one, its patently dangerous and more importantly, his condition was the result of a massive gamma radiation overdose--that level, one that makes a Hulk possible at all, is the only reason the series has David heal from otherwise dangerous or life-threatening injuries. However, if Banner himself cannot fully understand the cause and process of all things Hulk, there's no way he would ever experiment on others.
This brings up something from the comics I've always wondered about. Did Bruce know what was going on when his blood was given to Jen Walters? Like you say here, I would expect him to be intelligent enough to know not to let people use his blood for something like that.
 
New on the charts in those weeks (I'm calling RJD approving of our first selection):

"You Better You Bet," The Who
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(#18 US; #1 Rock; #9 UK)

"Too Much Time on My Hands," Styx
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"Watching the Wheels," John Lennon
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(#10 US; #6 AC; #25 Rock; #30 UK)

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"Jessie's Girl," Rick Springfield
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(#1 US the weeks of Aug. 1 and 8; #10 Rock; #43 UK)

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Four out of four for awareness. Three out of four for songs I liked. Two out for four songs I love.
I probably sing "You Better You Bet," at least once a week in the shower.
"Watching the Wheels," makes me sad.
 
^^ I actually find it hard to listen to "Watching The Wheels."

This brings up something from the comics I've always wondered about. Did Bruce know what was going on when his blood was given to Jen Walters? Like you say here, I would expect him to be intelligent enough to know not to let people use his blood for something like that.
I don't remember the book in great detail, but I'm pretty sure it was a life-or-death situation where he had no choice. He may have wondered if there would be any side effects, but I don't recall.
 
Actually, I kind of enjoy it in its badness.
Dude, you didn't say "The point is probably moot"! Help me out here, I was trying to keep your damn joke going! :scream:

And FWIW, they just played the Rick Springfield episode on H&I yesterday.

When a car's blown tire loses control, David Blackwell is struck, sending him slamming into parked cars, unconscious.
The relatively rare episode that starts with David on the road.

Dr. Hart: "You're gonna be crippled, David. I'm sorry. Are you sure there isn't anybody that you want me to contact? Your friends? Your family?"
David: "No."
I think this is one of the beats that had me speculating that, if David were truly facing such a life-altering situation as permanent paralysis, he might consider resuming his David Banner identity.

remembering his conversations with Elaina Marks about the advanced healing of his bullet wound
Pilot flashback! And put to good use.

David breaks his drinking glass, reasoning that a forced Hulk-out will take advantage of his system's amazing regenerative, healing properties.
As previously noted, this is the first time that David clearly contemplates deliberately triggering a HO. Though given that he's been living within the series formula for over three years, you have to wonder if he might just expect that something was going to trigger that HO around the bottom of the hour anyway....

his ever-solid conscience forces him to recall the Hulk's many acts of destruction, including a radio report mentioning how fortunate it was that no one was killed. The Hulk's violent unpredictability cannot be used to heal his body. David has to resign himself to being paralyzed.
Noting this for later.

Unable to ignore what he sees as disrespectful "charity", Paul stuffs the money in the man's pocket, and insults him, leading the man to become aggressive, but held back by the bartender.
Granted that Paul got in the first blow, you still have to be a real lowlife to want to take a swing at a guy in a wheelchair.

A fight breaks out, with the commotion knocking David down a flight of stairs--triggering a Hulk-out.
-23:58.

At the bar, McGee learns the man who was in the basement with the Hulk was accompanied by Paul--a resident of a local hospital...
Note that the generic John Doe description (previously argued to have been of little use) helps McGee to identify his quarry.

"Due to the recent tax cut, our funds have been greatly reduced."
Are Reaganomics kicking in already?

David (hiding behind an ambulance) waits for McGee to enter the hospital, then strains to walk to McGee's car, using his cane to control the gas & brake pedals. Banner carefully drives off, in pursuit of Paul, but it is slow going, with his attention split between the road and the makeshift control.
Not the first time that he's stolen McGee's car...and he gets it smashed up, too! :lol:

David's head snaps violently, triggering a Hulk-out.
-05:10.

At East Valley Savings, Paul is seconds away from pulling his starter's pistol, when the Hulk crashes in, sending Paul's briefcase out of a window, and carrying Paul away, ending his would-be bank robbing.
Hulk know where bank is! Hulk SMASH puny bank!!!

Paul: "Yeah, that McGee's really been on my tail. You know, David, it doesn't take a genius to figure out you're tied in with that creature. What's it all about?"
Paul gets the "suspecting a connection" beat, but he doesn't explicitly learn David's secret.

David moves on...
Interestingly, they use the very distinctive stadium LM from Denny Miller's previous appearance.

A fairly significant condition-related episode.
This is where we have to disagree...I'm not willing to lump this sort of story in with cure-related episodes. David's suffered other conditions, some potentially lethal, that he recovered from thanks to the healing boost provided by two regularly scheduled Hulk-Outs. What this is, is a good, memorable "David in a situation" episode (which maybe could have been its own category). Bill gets some meaty stuff--both emotional and physical--beyond the usual wandering samaritan routine.

And surprisingly, considering that David spent the entire episode in a medical facility, his Undercover Doctor status never came into play. Guess he knows better than to be a backseat physician/scientist.

Previously, he was the main guest of "Killer Instinct" from TIH's second season.
Another one that H&I just showed.

In the area of actors with other genre credits...you missed William Bogert (who, IIRC at this point, played the bank manager)...known for his recurring role as Carlisle, Bill Maxwell's superior at the FBI on The Greatest American Hero (also running on H&I)!

And in a larger sense, this premise makes David seem rather selfish. As the doctor said, the regenerative power of Dr. Banner’s little discovery could do wonders for many patients, and yet David keeps it secret from the world. Granted, he has reason to be worried about the dangers that come with it, as was spelled out in his debates with Dr. Cabot in “Bring Me the Head of the Hulk,” but dangers can be mitigated with proper precautions and responsible research. So it comes off as kind of selfish for him to keep his miracle cure to himself.

Alrighty, on to this week's controversial subject. First, IIRC, back when we were on the pilot, I questioned David's rationality in assuming a fugitive lifestyle, and the other regulars here insisted that it was the right choice for him at the time. Let's hold onto that for a bit.

First and foremost, David's recuperative abilities come as a side-effect of his Hulk condition, which is enabled by a combination of specific circumstances...anger, gamma ray exposure, and elevated adenine-thymine content in the DNA. That latter condition means that even if David were to learn to harness what turns him into the Hulk for only its regenerative properties, it probably wouldn't work on everyone.

What's more, he became the Hulk by accidentally overdosing on the radiation part, while trying to replicate under controlled conditions the more ordinary instances of limited bursts of strength and endurance. Recreating that level of physical enhancement under controlled conditions likely wouldn't be enough to serve as a miracle cure for paralysis.

Now maybe, for the sake of argument, with the resources and time to thoroughly research his own condition, he might, just might, learn to unlock only the Hulk's amazing recuperative abilities without turning people into Hulks, which he'd clearly never want to do. But he doesn't have the resources or time specifically because of his fugitive lifestyle!

The only way that he might reasonably be able to pursue such research would be if he abandoned that lifestyle, which would likely come with the revelation of both of his secret identities. And when that happens...he loses control of his life in another way, such that he wouldn't necessarily be free to pursue such research. More likely, he'd become the subject of research...and while that might ultimately result in somebody unlocking that healing potential, it would more likely result in unscrupulous people achieving the more direct outcome, making more Hulks.

To say nothing of the ethics of allowing a single person to be used as a guinea pig for the potential benefit of others.

And even if one goes to the trouble of debating all of the individual points outlined above...the bottom line is that the prospect of David pursuing research into his condition, or helping others to pursue it, comes with a grocery list of rather big ifs and maybes...including one very likely outcome that David is strongly motivated not to allow.

Prioritizing his own cure, OTOH, fulfills two conditions that would better enable him to potentially conduct such research in the future: He could stop running and potentially be the person doing the research rather than the guinea pig, giving him more control over the situation; and he might be more willing to risk unleashing more Hulks on the world if he knew how to cure them.

Also, it’s hard to believe that in all those weeks of physical therapy and relearning how to move, he never experienced enough pain and frustration to trigger a Startling Metamorphosis
At this point in the series, it would take more than a fall from the bars, unless there was some broken glass or a cactus plant right there on the floor waiting for him.

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Next week on Heroes & Icons (H&I):
  • "Mystery Man: Part 1" (originally aired Mar. 2, 1979)
  • "Mystery Man: Part 2" (originally aired Mar. 9, 1979)
  • "No Escape" (originally aired Mar. 30, 1979)
  • "Kindred Spirits" (originally aired Apr. 6, 1979)
  • "The Confession" (originally aired May 4, 1979)
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I think this is one of the beats that had me speculating that, if David were truly facing such a life-altering situation as permanent paralysis, he might consider resuming his David Banner identity.

As long as he's being hunted by McGee, he would never do that. I'm not sure he would feel safe contacting his sister to be transported to the Banner farm, since McGee had been there, and (however unlikely) might show up again.


Pilot flashback! And put to good use.

Oh, yes--completely relevant to Banner's current problem, The series never really misused flashbacks in a "just for the sake of it" fashion.


Granted that Paul got in the first blow, you still have to be a real lowlife to want to take a swing at a guy in a wheelchair.

Bars.

Note that the generic John Doe description (previously argued to have been of little use) helps McGee to identify his quarry.

The series supports how generic that is, as we have seen the usual blank stares or lack of positive I.D. from those he questions, as "mid thirties, brown hair" is indeed to generic in the United States. Theoretically, there would be millions fitting that description, hence the reason McGee's use of it never zeroes in on Banner. Further, he is so lacking in a true physical description, that he cannot even employ the talents of a sketch artist so he could actually show what he imagines John Doe to resemble, and/or print it in the Register. In this episode, his following up at the hospital has more to do with the fact the stranger who occupied the same basement as the Hulk was in a wheelchair / hanging around with known customer Paul, than anything else.

Not the first time that he's stolen McGee's car...and he gets it smashed up, too! :lol:

Stolen cars. Wrecked cars. I would dread seeing McGee's auto insurance rates

Paul gets the "suspecting a connection" beat, but he doesn't explicitly learn David's secret.

No, so he's just on the other side of the border of Learning David's Secret and Living to Not Talk About It.


Interestingly, they use the very distinctive stadium LM from Denny Miller's previous appearance.

Short and memorable.


This is where we have to disagree...I'm not willing to lump this sort of story in with cure-related episodes. David's suffered other conditions, some potentially lethal, that he recovered from thanks to the healing boost provided by two regularly scheduled Hulk-Outs. What this is, is a good, memorable "David in a situation" episode (which maybe could have been its own category). Bill gets some meaty stuff--both emotional and physical--beyond the usual wandering samaritan routine.

That's why I said its a condition-related episode.

And surprisingly, considering that David spent the entire episode in a medical facility, his Undercover Doctor status never came into play. Guess he knows better than to be a backseat physician/scientist.

That, and being no expert on spinal injuries, would not want to step on Dr. Hart's toes in his frustration with his disability.


What's more, he became the Hulk by accidentally overdosing on the radiation part, while trying to replicate under controlled conditions the more ordinary instances of limited bursts of strength and endurance. Recreating that level of physical enhancement under controlled conditions likely wouldn't be enough to serve as a miracle cure for paralysis.

That's what I pointed out earlier: his condition was the result of a massive gamma radiation overdose, one that makes a Hulk possible at all is the only reason the series has David heal from otherwise dangerous or life-threatening injuries. There is no safe level to seek from an overdose case. As in the situation with Dell Frye's arthritis, some dangerous level of radiation is required to achieve what is a side effect (healing) of the chief outcome of the strength/regeneration research & treatment.

Now maybe, for the sake of argument, with the resources and time to thoroughly research his own condition, he might, just might, learn to unlock only the Hulk's amazing recuperative abilities without turning people into Hulks, which he'd clearly never want to do. But he doesn't have the resources or time specifically because of his fugitive lifestyle!

...and thanks to McGee promising to "never leave him alone", David would never feel safe plating his feet anywhere long enough to research anything.

More likely, he'd become the subject of research...and while that might ultimately result in somebody unlocking that healing potential, it would more likely result in unscrupulous people achieving the more direct outcome, making more Hulks.

To say nothing of the ethics of allowing a single person to be used as a guinea pig for the potential benefit of others.

And even if one goes to the trouble of debating all of the individual points outlined above...the bottom line is that the prospect of David pursuing research into his condition, or helping others to pursue it, comes with a grocery list of rather big ifs and maybes...including one very likely outcome that David is strongly motivated not to allow.

He thought the mere idea of the benefits of Dr. Clive's treatment was not worth it (expressed to Frye), and did not want to risk experimenting on Carolyn. Since this series makes it clear that there is no middle ground or "safe" level (for the purpose of regenerative level enjoyed by David or Frye) as--once again--it was only achieved by (what should have been a lethal) overdose.

No ethical person with David's condition would ever use himself--or replicate his (or Frye's) research to use on others. Its beyond unreasonable.
 
First and foremost, David's recuperative abilities come as a side-effect of his Hulk condition, which is enabled by a combination of specific circumstances...anger, gamma ray exposure, and elevated adenine-thymine content in the DNA. That latter condition means that even if David were to learn to harness what turns him into the Hulk for only its regenerative properties, it probably wouldn't work on everyone.

But what's learned from studying it could point toward regenerative therapies that are effective on others. Science doesn't run out of stuff to find. Everything is connected. Everything is a piece of a larger puzzle. Studying one thing lets you learn about related things, not just the thing itself.

Even if the regenerative ability, like the enhanced strength, is connected to certain genes, the actual cellular mechanisms by which the metabolic acceleration and rapid healing occur are a different part of the process. The genes are just the administrative office sending out the orders -- it's the other systems in the body that do the actual work. So maybe there's some intervening signal, some chemical the genes trigger the body to release, that actually sets the rapid healing in motion. And that chemical could be replicated as a medicine that could work on anyone.

Failing that, there's always gene therapy. We saw way back in season 1 that the prototype technology for editing genes to have desired traits was in development in David's time -- I think it was the episode with Andrew J. Robinson and the baby-selling ring. Studying how the Startling Metamorphosis occurs on a cellular and genetic level could point toward a way to harness the positive, regenerative aspects without the more aggressive and... verdant... side effects.


Now maybe, for the sake of argument, with the resources and time to thoroughly research his own condition, he might, just might, learn to unlock only the Hulk's amazing recuperative abilities without turning people into Hulks, which he'd clearly never want to do. But he doesn't have the resources or time specifically because of his fugitive lifestyle!

Yes, that's my whole point -- that there's something selfish about David keeping his ability secret rather than submitting himself for study by the scientific community. This is actually raised next week in "Interview With the Hulk," albeit from a different angle. I'm not talking about David doing all the work himself. Science is interconnected, not just in concepts and principles, but in the community of researchers. There is no such thing as science done by one person in isolation, except in fiction. The scientific method requires cooperation, different researchers checking and replicating each other's work. What I'm talking about is David going public, telling the scientific community that he has a possible means to cure the incurable, albeit with some very dangerous side effects. Let the whole community of geneticists, biologists, biophysicists, etc. study his unique condition, and it could be the starting point for many medical breakthroughs in many different areas for decades to come. Yes, there's that whole pesky "wanted for a murder he didn't commit" thing, but he could save millions of other lives by sacrificing his own freedom. Plus, of course, since he didn't commit the murder, he could be exonerated if he actually submitted to a trial.

More likely, he'd become the subject of research...and while that might ultimately result in somebody unlocking that healing potential, it would more likely result in unscrupulous people achieving the more direct outcome, making more Hulks.

Yes, there's always the risk of abuse, but the main defense against such abuses, again, is the oversight of the community. Secrecy is what lets such abuses thrive. Fiction loves secrets for just that reason, because they generate and prolong crises, but in real life, that's just why openness is usually better. The reason we don't have more mad scientists doing evil work is that there's community oversight and ethics guidelines and so forth, because scientists do not work in isolation.


To say nothing of the ethics of allowing a single person to be used as a guinea pig for the potential benefit of others.

Unless he volunteers for it willingly, which is what I'm talking about. If he's such a good and compassionate man, you'd think he'd at least consider putting the good of countless others above his own.


At this point in the series, it would take more than a fall from the bars, unless there was some broken glass or a cactus plant right there on the floor waiting for him.

It's not "just a fall from the bars" we're talking about. That's trivializing it. Physical therapy of that kind, having to heal a badly injured body and teach it a whole new way of moving, training muscles to do things they've never had to do before, is an intensely difficult and painful process, as well as an intensely strenuous one and frequently a deeply frustrating and infuriating one. There's no need for contrived, artificial pain and anger stimuli when the very process of physical therapy involves plenty of genuine, ongoing pain and frustration. The pretense that David could go through weeks of physical therapy without ever experiencing anything more painful than "a fall from the bars" is staggeringly naive and unrealistic, one more way that the episode fails to be as respectful to paralysis patients as it wants to be.
 
Ongoing, endurable pain obviously doesn't trigger it...e.g., the hotbox.

Yes, there's that whole pesky "wanted for a murder he didn't commit" thing, but he could save millions of other lives by sacrificing his own freedom. Plus, of course, since he didn't commit the murder, he could be exonerated if he actually submitted to a trial.
Also, faking your own death is illegal.

staggeringly naive and unrealistic
That could be used to describe thinking that David going public wouldn't result in potentially disastrous consequences. Once the wrong people learn how to make Hulks....and anyone with the adenine-thymine factor would be a potential human guinea pig.
 
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