Spider-Man: Homecoming' anticipation thread

[Venardhi]

That assumes it is necessary or even beneficial to the story. Based on those who have seen the movie thus far, that doesn't seem to be the case. Phase one now takes place over the course of a year at most, and there are now 3~ additional "empty" years between Avengers and Civil War. .

 

[Christopher]

That assumes it is necessary or even beneficial to the story. Based on those who have seen the movie thus far, that doesn't seem to be the case.

But they haven't seen the whole "scroll," so maybe there's information they don't have. It should go without saying that the people who actually made the decisions have more information about the subject than people looking in from outside. It should, but somehow it doesn't.

 

[Reverend]

Even so, there shouldn't be such a high expectation that the timeline is rigorously followed. As Christopher said, the story should always take precedence.

Also, since the release of 'Doctor Strange', "a wizard did it" is now a legitimate in-universe excuse for just about any continuity issue from an android who evidently let his CMOS battery run down, to why Rhodey & Bruce's were replaced with more interesting people who look nothing like them.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Also, since the release of 'Doctor Strange', "a wizard did it" is now a legitimate in-universe excuse for just about any continuity issue from an android who evidently let his CMOS battery run down, to why Rhodey & Bruce's were replaced with more interesting people who look nothing like them.

Works for me.

Especially recasting.

 

[Christopher]

Especially recasting.

I think of that as equivalent to a new artist taking over the comic.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Sure and that's generally how I've accepted it in the past. But as Reverend points out, now we technically have an explanation.

 

[Dream]

Recastings in superhero movies are the least likely to bother me as well because of the switching artists thing.

 

[Christopher]

Just think of the recasting in the Universal Monsters movies. One movie had Bela Lugosi playing Ygor and Lon Chaney Jr. playing Frankenstein's Monster, then the next had Lugosi playing the Monster and Chaney playing the Wolf Man. And Ilsa Frankenstein became Ilona Massey in that one because she'd previously been played by the same actress who was the Wolf Man's love interest in his first film. And the next film after that had Glenn Strange as Frankenstein's Monster... and Boris Karloff as a mad scientist! Conversely, Lionel Atwood was in five consecutive Frankenstein movies... playing a different character in every one!!!

 

[Beagleman]

My headsplanation (that sounds gruesome) for Bruce's change in appearance, he is basically a shape shifter with no real control over it, once after transforming his human form came out a bit different. No, I don't really care about these things but they are fun to waste some brain activity on.

 

[Reverend]

Sure and that's generally how I've accepted it in the past. But as Reverend points out, now we technically have an explanation.

I like to think The Ancient One just wasn't big fan of 'Death to Smoochy' or...pretty much half the movies Terrence Howard has ever been in, and just laid some pollyjuice wammy on them. It's like the Sorcerer equivalent of Elvis shooting the TV.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I like to think The Ancient One just wasn't big fan of 'Death to Smoochy' or...pretty much half the movies Terrence Howard has ever been in, and just laid some pollyjuice wammy on them. It's like the Sorcerer equivalent of Elvis shooting the TV.

Awww...I like Death to Smoochy. But otherwise, I agree.

 

[Turtletrekker]

That assumes it is necessary or even beneficial to the story. Based on those who have seen the movie thus far, that doesn't seem to be the case. Phase one now takes place over the course of a year at most, and there are now 3~ additional "empty" years between Avengers and Civil War. .

Phase One always took place over the course of only about 18 months. Most of it does actually occur within a year, with only the first Iron Man being the outlier, taking place six months prior. Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, the framing sequences from Captain America: The First Avenger and the first Avengers movie all actually do all take place in about a year's worth of story time. That's the way it's always been.

Like I said earlier, the problem is actually Vision's "Eight years" statement in Civil War more than anything from Homecoming. In fact, it actually sounds to me like Homecoming got the timeline more right than Civil War did.

 

[DigificWriter]

IM2, TIH, Thor, and The Avengers all take place within the same week.

 

[Turtletrekker]

No, I'm rather sure that The Avengers took place a year later.

ETA: This is according to the "Fury's Big Week" canon comic that expands on the events of IM2, TIH and Thor (And "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To Thor's Hammer"!). The epilogue where they find Cap in the ice takes place "One Year Later".

Selvig also mentions the New Mexico incident of "About a year ago' in the comic.

 

[DigificWriter]

Ok, it's only the entirety of Thor, parts of TIH, and the entirety of IM2 that take place over the course of a single week.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Well, the beginning of Thor had scenes from the Frost Giant war and with Thor and Loki as children, and Banner's journey from South America to the East Coast took about three weeks, but basically yes.

 

[Venardhi]

Like I said earlier, the problem is actually Vision's "Eight years" statement in Civil War more than anything from Homecoming. In fact, it actually sounds to me like Homecoming got the timeline more right than Civil War did.

The two "8 years" are incompatible either way and add in empty years to the post-Avengers time period that seemingly can't be accounted for.

Vision was off by a year and a half-ish, Homecoming is off by 3.

 

[Reverend]

No, I'm rather sure that The Avengers took place a year later.

ETA: This is according to the "Fury's Big Week" canon comic that expands on the events of IM2, TIH and Thor (And "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To Thor's Hammer"!). The epilogue where they find Cap in the ice takes place "One Year Later".

Selvig also mentions the New Mexico incident of "About a year ago' in the comic.

I honestly wouldn't put much stock in the tie-in comics because you can bet the filmmakers don't bother.

For what it's worth though I did happen to catch Avengers on the telly the other day and in the conversation about why they were trying to recreate Hydra weapons, Fury refers to the events of Thor as having took place "last year". So depending on what time or year it was it could (theoretically) be as much as 23 months and change, or as little as a few months.

But again, it's really not worth overthinking. These are only really passing mentions and hardly vital to the plot. So what if not all the numbers add up right?

The two "8 years" are incompatible either way and add in empty years to the post-Avengers time period that seemingly can't be accounted for.

Vision was off by a year and a half-ish, Homecoming is off by 3.

That would be of vital importance if it weren't for this one minor detail: Nobody cares!.

 

[Venardhi]

We're on a Star Trek discussion board. Keep some perspective. This place basically exists to talk about things "nobody cares" about.

 

[Christopher]

We're on a Star Trek discussion board. Keep some perspective. This place basically exists to talk about things "nobody cares" about.

It's one thing for fans to while away their time talking about trivial details. It's an entirely different thing to malign the competence of professional filmmakers just because they chose to prioritize larger storytelling needs over those trivial details.