Reveal: New transporter design!

[Mirror Mirror]

It wasn't a "failed pilot" or there would never have been a second pilot. It was borderline at worst. And of course it's part of TOS.

Not to most people. Most have no clue there is anything before Kirk shows up as Captain, You think some writer at EW would know what the cage was? I am many others do not include the cage when I/we say TOS, as its not part of the TOS. Its what the show would have been if it had been approved as is.

 

[Jesse1066]

Not to most people. Most have no clue there is anything before Kirk shows up as Captain, You think some writer at EW would know what the cage was? I am many others do not include the cage when I/we say TOS, as its not part of the TOS. Its what the show would have been if it had been approved as is.

I don't think it's much more obscure than most other Star Trek episodes, taken at random. But I agree that most non-fans don't know there was an episode before Kirk. Discovery is clearly intended to be ten years before TOS Season 1, not ten years before The Cage.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

I don't think it's much more obscure than most other Star Trek episodes, taken at random. But I agree that most non-fans don't know there was an episode before Kirk. Discovery is clearly intended to be ten years before TOS Season 1, not ten years before The Cage.

I agree, also they are using TOS phasers. So some TOS style is coming though and well, they still look both cool and futuristic.

 

[CaptainPete]

Look I'm all pro-discovery. I'm just trying to reconcile it for the people (we have all seen them) who think that somehow cbs is lying about it being prime timeline.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Look I'm all pro-discovery. I'm just trying to reconcile it for the people (we have all seen them) who think that somehow cbs is lying about it being prime timeline.

You never will as they want it to look like a dated fan film. Trek is not gonna look like TOS again as they will apile to only a tiny, shinking number of people. They have put nods to some TOS looks in there, the phasers, the communicator and such. But the control, uniforms and ships are going to look like what people today think 2255 will look like, not what people in 1965 thought it would look like.

 

[Mudd]

But the control, uniforms and ships are going to look like what people today think 2255 will look like, not what people in 1965 thought it would look like.

Well, sort of.

They're updating it to look like what people who love Star Trek and its aesthetic and don't want it to really change are willing to accept that the future might look like - on Star Trek.

Huge solid-body spacecraft designed to look like traditional Earth-bound ships and vehicles. One over-sized gadget for voice-only communications that's entirely separate from the oversized gadgets they use for information collection, retrieval and display. Rooms full of great big consoles with pretty displays that require lots of people to monitor and interact with them on a moment-to-moment basis to accomplish relatively simple repetitive tasks. Uniforms that look flashy, mean nothing and would be pains-in-the-butts to work in ( oh, say "Hi" to Nicholas Meyer)!

They're still coloring inside the Star Trek lines as best they can, which must make it tremendously frustrating when they criticized by very conservative fans by not respecting the history of the thing.

I mean, Hell, the Trek future could at least look something like Avatar - that's still so conservative as to be unlikely.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Look I'm all pro-discovery. I'm just trying to reconcile it for the people (we have all seen them) who think that somehow cbs is lying about it being prime timeline.

They don't want reconciliation. Thinking CBS lied allows them to hang on to their vision of Star Trek.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Well, sort of.

They're updating it to look like what people who love Star Trek and its aesthetic and don't want it to really change are willing to accept that the future might look like - on Star Trek. They're still coloring inside the Star Trek lines as best they can, which must make it tremendously frustrating when they criticized by very conservative fans by not respecting the history of the thing.

I mean, Hell, the Trek future could at least look something like Avatar - that's still so conservative as to be unlikely.

I agree with this. And it upsets me many trek fans do not see how much they are trying to both update and respect trek. I have seen no less than a dozen threads raging over the fact they are using the delta. And endless teeth gashing over the transporter room and ships not looking like the TOS Constitution, which is really the lameduck of trek.

You can not seem to make anyone understand you can change the look and totally respect both canon and the history as the look does not change the events or stories at all.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

But the control, uniforms and ships are going to look like what people today think 2255 will look like

That's definitely not what people today think 2255 will look like.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That's definitely not what people today think 2255 will look like.

A couple of people probably did.

 

[Galaxy]

It's there in the Chakoteya transcript
Smiling Spock, too at TrekCore's Menagerie's screencaps

Thanks for that. That makes me curious how people who are very strict with canon view things like smiling Spock.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

That's definitely not what people today think 2255 will look like.

Why not? Who knows what tranporters can look like, the control, power pad, center and uniforms are pretty much modern sci-fi. The inner circles are a bit retro, but still a modern take control wise and matches the trek lens. I simply fail to see the issue ( other than the black squares, which will bug the hell out of me if not explained)

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I'm wondering what is that surface in front of Saru and the other guy. Is it just a wall? Or does it have controls on it?

 

[Nerys Myk]

I just hope the circular things on the wall aren't the emitters.

 

[AaronMorse]

Actually the article from Entertainment Weekly where the image of the transporter room first appeared specifically calls it “one of the transporter rooms on the U.S.S. Shenzhou”. Not saying they couldn't be wrong, but somehow I doubt it.

Oh jeez... Well here's hoping they were incorrect... Visually its a mess.. Doesnt seem to match any pre or post Star Fleet style.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Why not? Who knows what tranporters can look like

The inner circles are a bit retro

I simply fail to see the issue

What a coincidence! Those would be my words exactly had they used an updated version of the TOS transporter room!

 

[Mirror Mirror]

What a coincidence! Those would be my words exactly had they used an updated version of the TOS transporter room!

And people would have hated it. And why should they? They are no longer bound by a tiny budget and forced to reuse parts of a set over and over.

Why must transporter room all look the same because they reused set section to save money.

 

[Mudd]

That's definitely not what people today think 2255 will look like.

Neither is any of the rest of Star Trek.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Neither is any of the rest of Star Trek.

My point exactly. Thank you!

And people would have hated it. And why should they? They are no longer bound by a tiny budget and forced to reuse parts of a set over and over.

Why must transporter room all look the same because they reused set section to save money.

Again confusing production design with production values.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Again confusing production design with production values.

Nope, pointing out fact. Many of treks oddies are buget related. There is no reason all transports must look the same because they made a budget related call.