Wonder Woman (2017)
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It's quite clear in the movie (well, it's more clear in the novel) that electromagnetic radiations aren't behaving normal. So, no smartphones or GPS
Fair point.
Though the Stalker could have thrown smartphones with ribbons to test the area.
Well, it would be quite expensive...Fair point.
Though the Stalker could have thrown smartphones with ribbons to test the area.
Good. Wonder Woman has always been a character rushing into war, so there has to be a fair amount of on-screen violence. Is she beheading enemies left and right? Who knows, but she has to be violent in a world of unrelenting, violent soldiers.
Hm. compare W.W. to Captain America: The First Avenger, where he shot, brutalized and used explosives against Hydra/Nazis, and it was fine for most audiences. As long as it serves the story (and its not a Cannon Film bullet fest from the 1980s), parents should feel safe taking kids to see W.W., which happens to have violent content.
Because their larger culture instills them with self-control and pro-social behavioral standards. Violent entertainment doesn't create violent tendencies; it merely provides a focus for tendencies that already exist in an individual due to other problems like mental illness, an abusive upbringing, or an unstable society. (For instance, nobody's going to be inspired by a Roadrunner cartoon to go out and torture a coyote, not unless they already have a predisposition to abuse animals.) If anything, I think Japanese fiction is so violent because it's a harmless release valve for the aggressive impulses that are otherwise so rigorously controlled.
I didn't intend psychopath of the violent kind. There are so many flavours out there. I mean, check their porn output and then tell me that they are sane people.
And before we engage in some interminable discussion, I was joking
All I'm saying is, if you want to assess a society's health, look at how much real violence it has, not fantasy violence. By that standard, America is a far, far sicker culture than Japan.
Indeed, it occurs to me to wonder if part of the reason for all the violence in Japanese entertainment is because they've been trying so hard for the past 7 decades to cater to their perception of American tastes and values. Like how manga and anime characters tend to have big eyes because the Japanese artists have traditionally tried to make them look Western. So by the same token, maybe their approach to violence is a caricature of the violence they see in American movies/TV.
Indeed, it occurs to me to wonder if part of the reason for all the violence in Japanese entertainment is because they've been trying so hard for the past 7 decades to cater to their perception of American tastes and values. Like how manga and anime characters tend to have big eyes because the Japanese artists have traditionally tried to make them look Western. So by the same token, maybe their approach to violence is a caricature of the violence they see in American movies/TV.
So you're counting on three-in-a-row? Tall order...
This whole conversation reminds me of the scene in the first Terminator movie where Sarah is running around out on the street desperately searching for a pay phone. That would definitely not be an issue if the movie was made today.Meteor required tracking down Russian scientists to get their weapon system up and running, which would be piss easy if those scientists were monitoring the situation on twitter with their smartphones.
In Stalker, they could have called ahead and booked a hotel, or looked up the yelp reviews on their phone about the Zone, therefore understanding how mercilessly bad an idea it is to look for enlightenment in Soviet Russia.
Sigh...
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(I did try to get into JDate, said that I was a man looking for a man, although I should have said that I was a woman looking for man... They wanted a zip code and couldn't be bothered looking up the zip code for New York...
HA!
The person listed as Annie Hall is a good friend of mine!!!!
Never mind.
I answered 10 more questions on jdate's application, trying to see if they had any one with a fake Woody Allen Profile, or if Woody Allen was shopping around... They they wanted an email to proceed.
FAH!!!
Alvie and Annie could have ordered dead lobsters with their phones, or booked a table at a restaurant with their cellphone to have a professionally cooked series of lobsters.
Battery dead.
No reception.
Convenient issues.
No reception.
Convenient issues.
Some years back, I was waiting for a bus on an otherwise empty stretch of sidewalk when a woman nearby keeled over unconscious right out of the blue. I didn't have a cell phone yet, so in order to call 911, I had to race down the block, cross two intersecting streets, find someplace that was open, ask them if I could use their phone, and then get told there was a pay phone across the street that I'd missed. (I was not impressed by their lack of interest in helping.) Fortunately, help arrived in time, but I think that may have been the incident that convinced me I needed to get a cell phone.
I don't know. Japan had its share of violent literature and entertainment well before of the American cultural colonization. And there a lot of quite violent Noh plays. Perhaps Americans just gave them same new ideas. You know...
You know, I wonder where their fixation with atomic holocaust came from...
At least they can make fun of themselves...
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And in Australian soaps, getting lost in the bush in order to knacker the reception happens a lot. Err, apparently. Not that I've seen any, you understand.
Well, sure -- no doubt every culture does. I'm not talking about existence vs. nonexistence, since that's obviously ridiculous; I'm talking about how far it's taken. Japanese entertainment seems to be proportionally more extreme in its violence than American entertainment, but maybe that's because the Japanese are catering to what they see as American tastes, and one culture's perception of another culture tends to be exaggerated. Like how the British assume Americans are obsessed with guns and Americans assume the British are obsessed with tea.
I understand the general point you're making but if you've been to Japan you will know it is has a long history of literary and artistic depictions of violence (often graphic, and especially sexual) that predate any American fan-service, and much of which is specifically for the domestic market that gaijin do not generally get to experience.
Most of the current anime you are probably familiar with airs late at night (or some premium service) and is aimed mostly at adults/fans (kids just don't have much purchasing power to buy the merch needed to fund these shows), the Japanese equivalent of people like us.
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Again, though, the question is not one of existence vs. nonexistence, since obviously any culture is going to have just about any idea represented in its historical literature. The question is one of degree and quantity. Did such materials make up as high a proportion of the total range of works of entertainment then as they do now, or were they outliers? Did they go as far, and did they do so as frequently? If you plot a bell curve of the entertainment of a given era from least violent to most violent, would the peak of the curve be in roughly the same place now as it was then? This is not a binary question.
I know, but BvS hit me pretty hard. I don't hate Man of Steel or Suicide Squad, but they don't really give me much reason to defend the DCEU either. It's especially galling as BvS and Suicide Squad both got arguably better versions released on Blu-ray, so there's even less incentive for me to see them in the cinema.
Again, I was joking. I know Japanese children were more exposed to violent anime in '70s and '80s than today. And I wasn't really serious when I claimed that I can judge the collective psyche of a Nation from its animation output. I mean, Italy probably (also in the '70s and '80s) broadcast almost all the same Japanese violent anime and I doubt that the respective populations are really comparable.
Perhaps I have to use more emoticons in my posts...