Thoughts on Burnham's relationship to Sarek

[Captain Indecisive]

The latter. The choice of name may have been chosen to help the character seem more relateable to those watching, but it could be a coincidence. I do think, Burnham's experience will be a form of allegory, growing up among people who do not accept how you feel you really are, despite your species/gender.

I would like at some point that the actress or producers explain why they went with a male name as opposed to a female name or feminine version of it.

I know it is sometimes used for a girl's name, but it is an unusual choice and I'm curious about it.

 

[{ Emilia }]

I would like at some point that the actress or producers explain why they went with a male name as opposed to a female name or feminine version of it.

I know it is sometimes used for a girl's name, but it is an unusual choice and I'm curious about it.

Most likely just Fuller being Fuller because he likes to do that with female characters.

 

[Crisp Conditions]

What if it was the other way around?

What if Uhura, Sulu or LaForge were re-imagined as white people?

You're joking.



Oh, no, wait, you're serious.

All other things being equal? Then Star Trek would be even more lopsided, obviously.

 

[Captain Indecisive]

Regarding what I wrote about Burnham possibly being Amanda's daughter from a previous marriage? Assume Amanda Grayson marries a black guy with the last name Burnham, has a kid, then either gets divorced or is widowed.

Seems like people are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Above I mentioned the situation is similar to the hysterics about Rey's parentage. I thought it was just coincidence but maybe people are trying in some way to replicate that.

 

[Captain Indecisive]

Maybe she grew up on Vulcan or her family is Sarek's neighbor. She showed an interest in Vulcan culture and Sarek became something of a mentor.

Or she's Spock half sister we never heard about because he had no reason to tell anyone. He did have a brother he never talked about.

Spock never spoke about Sybok because he was ashamed/embarrassed of him. Seems a stretch, and highly unimaginative, that he would have another half sibling that shamed the family.n

Burnham being his sister would also mean that the producers are hinting that she will come to something of a bad end.

 

[Captain Indecisive]

Most likely just Fuller being Fuller because he likes to do that with female characters.

What other female character's have male names? Only Freddie Lowndes comes to mind but Freddie can be short for Frederica, or in this case, Winifred.

 

[cultcross]

What other female character's have male names? Only Freddie Lowndes comes to mind but Freddie can be short for Frederica, or in this case, Winifred.

George from Dead Like Me, another Fuller show.

 

[Captain Indecisive]

You're joking.



Oh, no, wait, you're serious.

All other things being equal? Then Star Trek would be even more lopsided, obviously.

Why would I be joking? If you are serious that a white actress can be replaced by a black actress then why can't it be the other way around?

 

[Captain Indecisive]

George from Dead Like Me, another Fuller show.

True, but isn't her full name Georgina and not just George?

George itself is not an uncommon nickname for Georgina. I know two, in fact.

 

[Crisp Conditions]

Why would I be joking? If you are serious that a white actress can be replaced by a black actress then why can't it be the other way around?

Asked and answered.

 

[cultcross]

Why would I be joking? If you are serious that a white actress can be replaced by a black actress then why can't it be the other way around?

Do we really have to explain why replacing the handful of diverse characters in a show is problematic?

 

[Captain Indecisive]

Asked and answered.

No, you did not answer.

 

[Captain Indecisive]

Do we really have to explain why replacing the handful of diverse characters in a show is problematic?

Yes.

There is a tremendous outcry against Hollywood's "whitewashing" - as there should be.

However, if a white person cannot be cast in a role previously portrayed by a black person, then the same must be when the situation is reversed.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Yes.

There is a tremendous outcry against Hollywood's "whitewashing" - as there should be.

However, if a white person cannot be cast in a role previously portrayed by a black person, then the same must be when the situation is reversed.

No, because white people have never been and are not systemically underrepresented in media. There is no structural disadvantage for white people.

 

[Mudd]

Yes.

 

[Crisp Conditions]

What @{ Emilia } said.

What @Serveaux posted.

 

[Captain Indecisive]

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Not an answer. If you had any belief in what you are saying, you would use your own words.

 

[Captain Indecisive]

What @{ Emilia } said.

What @Serveaux posted.

As above.

 

[Crisp Conditions]

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[{ Emilia }]

Not an answer. If you had any belief in what you are saying, you would use your own words.

I have answered this. I am always astonished that I have to explain this extraordinarily simple concept again and again.

This is also the reason why the fact that there's no "white history month" is not a problem. White history is the default, just like white over-representation in media.

 

[Captain Indecisive]

No, because white people have never been and are not systemically underrepresented in media. There is no structural disadvantage for white people.

This part is true, but you don't make something right by doing something wrong.

JJ Abrams wanted The Force Awakens to have a diverse cast, but he still audition actresses and actors of all skin colour and background and chose the best people for the job.

I'd also like to point out the futility of arguing that Burnham could be Number One when Fuller himself said put that to rest long ago, as DigificWriter said earlier..