Do you think WWII films are historically accurate?
Bryan Fuller: Diversity is key
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^History is written by the winners...so are 'historical' movies.
I had to do a case study of the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in 1913? in college. Over a hundred "women" (upper teens, early 20's) died, nearly all of them European immigrants mostly jewish. The death toll from the fire was responsible for early labor-organization and workplace safety laws.
So clearly even before WWII women worked, mostly those families that needed every able bodied hand to earn an income to survive, especially Depression-era.
WWII specifically led to the mass mobilization of women in the workplace at historic levels in the United States, and probably most countries as well.
As for black and latino women, i'm just not familiar with and if you have any sources to share i'd appreciate it.
Not to invalidate your own point, but even the fact that white soldiers are always British or American is a problem. The RAF's 303 squadron was the highest scoring Hurricane squadron, and also had the highest ratio of enemy aircraft destroyed/own aircraft surviving.... And all the pilots were Polish.When was the last time any world war movie featured anyone but pale people in the British and American ranks????
I guess you never heard of slavery, the Emancipation Proclamation, The Migration North, Jim Crow...what type of work do you think women of colour were able to get during those times?
My source? - My granny, my great grand mother, my great great grand mother.....
Or you can always watch Roots, The Help, Corinna , Corinna,
Isn't there a phrase about if it was true that all you need for prosperity is to work hard, then the only billionaires would be African women....
There is another phrase - 'The black woman is the mule of the world'
Makes me wonder if that's just to appeal to a wider demographic of modern gamers?
(Not that I'm accusing, there are those trying to set better examples, just that the number of prior examples haven't left me the giving them the benefit of the doubt type...)
Haven't heard that one before, but I don't doubt it for a second.
That is probably it. The most recent COD games have all had the option to be female in MP, and some have had main character female NPCs in SP.
Even COD WWII is going to have the option to be female in Multiplayer. (and some people are upset because it isn't historically accurate
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Its from an American novel - Their eyes were watching God
I guess it goes back to....
Film/TV/game studios often only feel the need to justify their choices based on the money they're spending/accumulating. Even if their intentions aren't as honourable as they could be, but they're still becoming more diverse to accomodate (and get money from) a less forgiving public, is that necessarily a bad thing?
Yes and no. I guess the argument is that if other media are being more progressive in terms of diversity, Discovery has no exuse not to?
Have you read Susan Meissner's A Fall of Marigolds? It has duel plots- one with 9/11 and one with that disaster.
LCC, no i haven't.
Unless you're referring to pre-emancipation slavery, or the harsh treatment of blacks and minorities in general even after the civil war?
I *don't* know. Regarding your point of "millions of black women, and probably hispanic/latino women" working long before WWII, I was asking what sources you could share with me.
Unless you're referring to pre-emancipation slavery, or the harsh treatment of blacks and minorities in general even after the civil war?
When was the last time any world war movie featured anyone but pale people in the British and American ranks????
Red Tails in 2012? It wouldn't have been made though, if George Lucas wouldn't have paid for it with his own money. So I doubt there are many more movies of its kind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Tails
How about the 1995 HBO television movie The Tuskegee Airmen about the same African American combat pilots unit of World War II. Cuba Gooding Jr. stars in both movies!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tuskegee_Airmen
There are also those such as Men of Honour (Cuba just gets everywhere doesn't he), Windtalkers and Hidden Figures which all highlight the importance of either ethnic minority contributions to (inter)nationally recognised moments of US pride, and/or important figures who achieved a number of firsts, but these are all created to specifically tell these particular stories.
Whilst these are indeed stories which should be told, going back to the original question of..
I can't think of any "general" war movie which has non-white characters whose ethnicity isn't specifcially tied to the narrative.
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