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What would be a deal breaker for you in Discovery?

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RomulanCommander

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So, I am curious as to what would be a deal breaker for you, if it were in Discovery? I am talking about something that isn't just a minor annoyance, but something that you just could not overlook and would bother you so much, you couldn't watch it.

I think for me it would have to be a reboot, or yet another universe or timeline. I could be down with it being either set in the prime timeline or the Kelvin timeline, but I want to see some connection to a previous version of Star Trek. Not to the point of constant call backs, and I am not sure what form it should take. But I would like to see a definite connection of some type. I feel that if it were yet another timeline\universe or worse, a complete hard reboot that disregards everything that came before, it would just be too much to ask of me. I don't want to see them trash 50 years of Star Trek lore.
 
The characters being pretentious windbags.
always with the stealth TNG digs, smh Daniel :D

j/k

So, I am curious as to what would be a deal breaker for you, if it were in Discovery?
OP, I am going to level with you here - it's a Star Trek show, so I don't really have deal breakers.

I agree that it shouldn't be dull, but who am I kidding, I would watch it anyway because, Star Trek.
 
Fair enough answer Spctre.

I can't say I am as excited about Discovery as I was when it was first announced (has it really been almost a year and a half?), but I will also watch it and give it a chance. I felt I gave up on Enterprise too soon, and maybe I was too hasty. I left after season 2 started, and didn't come back until season 3 was almost over. I think fans who did the same as me may have hurt the show.

That being said, I won't feel bad about dropping the show if it is really bad, or takes Star Trek in a direction I am diametrically opposed to, either.
 
Not sure what would be a deal breaker but I found Daredevil and Jessica Jones too slow moving and not enough movement on the stories in early episodes. As a consequence i stopped watching Daredevil after 3/4 eps in season 2 and have had two goes at watching Jessica Jones.
As I love all things Trek it would have to be exceptionally slow moving plot/character development for me not to watch all of season 1.
 
  • If I find it boring
  • Weak storytelling
  • Dumb character development like we spend an entire episode discovering somebody likes pineapples.
  • If I find I'm watching it because it is Star Trek and I want it to be good, even though it is not to my liking. I already went thru this with ENT and saw it through to the last horror show episode. At this point I'll just drop Discovery if this happens.
 
If it resembles season 4 of Enterprise aka the worst season! Many people like it but it's just a bunch of fanwank, that doesn't mean it wasn't entertaining fanwank but it was no longer its own series, it was the TOS and TNG callback show.

I don't mind the occasional callback or reference but if every episode features guest appearances or picks up dropped plots from 50 years ago or explains things that don't need to be explained Discovery can die in a fire.

Basically, if I see a "Why romulans have ridges on TNG but not in TOS" episode followed by a "Q creates the galactic barrier which will disappear by the 24th century" arc, a "Why we suddenly love retro chrome tricorders" plot and a "We found a wormhole near Bajor but the aliens in it removed our memories" finale I'm out!
 
It isn't any one thing that will be a dealbreaker, I'll give anything a go. What it would be is the feeling that watching becomes a chore rather than a joy, I start to miss episodes without caring, and eventually realise I've stopped watching. That's what happened with Enterprise, I just got bored and drifted away.
 
woah woah woah, back up a second, are we talking general pineapples or pineapples on pizza here?
I personally like pineapples in all its forms. My preferred form is in a pina colada. I'll take it on pizza, in a smoothie, on a fruit plate, whatever.

At a Star Trek level, I'm talking about this episode.
 
If someone connected to the show comes over to my house and kills me or a member of my family. Otherwise it is a Trek show so I know I will watch no matter what they do on the show?

Jason
 
If there's a Ferengi in it (and there shouldn't be) I won't watch it. I hate those creatures.

If they spend to much time trying to beat me over the head with morality shows, I won't watch.

If they have episodes where the forehead alien of the week is simply a metaphor for some controversial aspect of humanity, I won't watch. If they do this once, I'll forgive them and keep watching, but two of those shows in a short season and I'm outa here. If you want to deal with some controversial aspect of humanity, then do with humans.
 
If the first 15 to 30 minutes of the premiere is boring, that's it. That's how I lost interest in Enterprise, Insurrection and Nemesis. I couldn't even sit through the rest of it. Can't stress it enough--Discovery has to be careful about it's premiere.
 
I'm different from most in that I'm a production design and cinematography snob. What I've seen of the look of Discovery so far, the ship itself and the gothic Klingons, is leaving me cold.

Also, Les Moonves' statement that the show would appeal to younger audiences makes me feel that it will be (across the board) tacky and show-offy with nonsensical detail for its own sake (which was a facet of the Kelvinverse) and that would really turn me off.

I think there is a way to update the Cage era look while holding onto a sense of the uncluttered minimalism. I shudder to say this, but that's at least what the intent of Axanar was (whether they were going to achieve it or not).

In addition to that I've heard all these rumors about a totally stupid story thread with the whole Mark Lenard multi-universe thing and if they really are going in that direction then it's an epic fail in the writing.

If Discovery's arc is really a story that deserves to be told I would have expected CBS to drop more hints as to what those themes are by now. So there's a very good chance the spine of this story is weak and that it played a factor in these delays and Fuller's exit.
 
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