Dr. Julian Bashir: The Creep of Deep Space Nine
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Fair enough, although I'm also reminded of Geordi talking to Guinan about meeting the real Brahms, knowing she wasn't HoloBrahms, and Guinan giving him a great "you can fool yourself, but you can't fool me" look. I'm not saying Bashir would intentionally trick Ezri, but as a similarly not the best with women character, I can see him believing what he wants to believe. As @Voth commando1 said....
Well, as relatable as loving the memories left behind in a belly worm gets at least...
Trick her how?
By making her think he was in love with her, not what remains of Jadzia.
Mind you, after she slept with Worf, it's not like she had much distinction between her and Jadzia either...
It's a hell of an assumption to make, in light of the evidence.
We're not bashing them, we're just pointing out where certain elements of Trek can do better. To me at least, being a fan isn't viewing everything with rose tinted glasses, it's enjoying something but also being able to be critical of when a show/film/book could do better.What's with the recent trend to label male Trek characters “creeps”, “stalkers” and “weirdos” capable of sexual harrassment?
This is still a place for fans of these shows, right?
You are right of course that being critical is part of being a fan. I'm not disputing that and am actually rather critical of some aspects of Trek myself. (I'm just not all that vocal about it, as I prefer positivity. I guess I just don't like dwelling on things I don't like all that much.) I just noticed it's kinda strange that suddenly over the last few days in a number of threads this notion has popped up that male Trek characters behave weird towards the other sex. Can be a coincidence, sure. But still, it's strange is all.
Despite these highly questionable moments, I still like Bashir a lot. Not only is he a good and conscientious person the rest of the time, but he seems to have no clue he's crossed a line, and when he does realize it, he makes amends.
Definitely, no character or even series is going to be completely flawless throughout their run. And the realising and making amends is always admirable.
The patient wanted to go out with him as well.
I agree with this part which is why I am glad the writers did what they did with the couple
They split them up
Genetically engineered or not, he still should have known she was still too socially, and emotionally inexperienced to make that decision?
It's another example of the "Born Sexy Yesterday" Hollywood trope all over again.
I'm not sure if you understood my post or not, I was saying he was downright depressed over not "having" Jadzia as late as Tears of The Prophets he was moping-complaining with Quark about he wouldn't ever find true happiness.
Sure by the end of season 1 or so he abandoned chasing Jadzia-he never abandoned wanting her.
Does that reflect badly on him? Maybe. Is that a sentiment I can understand absolutely!
All I meant was that if Julian did fall for Ezri because he saw parts of a previous "one that got away" in her, it would be something that wouldn't be ideal, but still a human failing that is relatable.
It's a new situation no one alive has ever faced. Ezri Dax WAS half Dax. Is it wrong to go out with someone only half of whom you were in love with earlier? We have no human propriety rule for that.
Until we invent brain transplants, that is...
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