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Harry Kim's rape

If trek is to live up to it's reputation as being socially progressive it would do well to handle what is actually a very serious issue far more responsibly than this.

RIP Star Trek if it ever becomes one big socially 'progressive' tool.
 
I was wondering how old Ch'Rega was.

Klingons become fully mature adults well before their tenth birthday. (Worf's kid was in the navy at the age of 9.)

Is there any chance that she was acting like an idiot because she's 5 years old?

Neelix does like them young, after all.
 
Just re-imaging the episode.
EMH: Mr Kim what is that mark on your face?
Harry: I was sexually assaulted.
EMH: Call security.
Tuvok arrives and takes the attempted rapist to the brig.

End.

They'll be lining up to watch that episode.
 
Wasn't there something up with Alexander because of the human DNA? So a normal Klingon could be even younger.

...

I don't want this line of thought anymore. Take it back, Guy.
 
Last man standing.

If any other man, or woman for that matter, wanted Ch'Rega, who is a woman without loyalty, who will adhere to the strongest proven suitor present, all they would have to do is thump Neelix until he is knocked to the ground.

1. Could Neelix defend himself how well from a new Klingon suitor or suitors?

2. Would a member of Voyager's crew beat up Neelix to woo Ch'Rega?

3. Would Neelix take a prearranged dive, to pass the relationship on to an intrigued someone else on Voyager's crew, after he notices how incredibly unhealthy this situation is.

4. Ch'rega's behaviour is medically classified as an Olive Oyl Complex, which is where a woman is excited by two men fighting over her. Look it up.
 
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RIP Star Trek if it ever becomes one big socially 'progressive' tool.
This is probably why I didn't see your posts in the Discovery forum - I don't visit it because I kinda get that vibe, after China's Ministry of Propaganda made a multimillion dollar partnership to Paramount. More of that "soft-power" shtick.

Anyway, if I say the Roadrunner promotes cannibalism, it bloody well does and I'll have any professor fired who doesn't respect me and my comfort dog

I was wrong in a previous post though when I said Harry never got laid in any episode. I'd forgotten about The Chute. He came closest in that one, I think.

Now if you'll all excuse me I'm off to the Youtube comments section, where I will surely find a supportive audience who is receptive to my psychosocial theses.
 
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I thought the Doctor teasing him as being a guy thing and felt more sorry for Tuvok's room than I did for Harry.

Sorry to re-quote but I've mulled this over since my last comment. I think the "guy thing" idea might have worked if it had been Tom saying it in a social setting given the relationship between the two, a friend using gallows humour to support him. The doctor, however, is a senior officer and health professional with a duty of care acting in an official capacity. There's an enormous difference.

Just re-imaging the episode.
EMH: Mr Kim what is that mark on your face?
Harry: I was sexually assaulted.
EMH: Call security.
Tuvok arrives and takes the attempted rapist to the brig.

End.

They'll be lining up to watch that episode.

They could do better than that. They regularly do.
 
I was wrong in a previous post though when I said Harry never got laid in any episode. I'd forgotten about The Chute. He came closest in that one, I think.
Haha haha

He did get laid in another one. The girl had dark hair, a sexy accent, and a wide screen TV in her quarters. I forget her name and the episode name.
 
Kim is a highly trained Starfleet officer that's been at combat stations for the last five years.

If he wanted to judo her to the ground, and hold her there until she calmed down, I think he could have, because weak humans are taught laboriously at the academy how to fight monsters several times stronger and faster than they are.

Sure, it's possible that she's a highly trained Klingon Warrior, but it's also possible that she's a chef, or a botanist. (Yes, she can also be all three. Girls can do anything.) but what's a certainty is that Ch'Rega was trying to #### him, and she thought that he was into it, and everything was above board, because no one bothered to teach her love making human style, so she would not be expecting him to fight back for realz, when she was being playful.

Maybe the reason that Kim didn't feel like he had been assaulted by a legal definition, physically or sexually, is that it actually took great restraint on his part to not knock her teeth out or break one of her limbs off, so honestly Harry Kim was really in no danger from this very tall lady whatsoever.
 
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Blood Fever.

1. Vorik mindraped B'Elanna, and gave her the horn.

2. Amped up, she had to give it away, but apparently not exclusively, or at all to Vorik, which enraged the Vulcan.

3. Vorik tried to have sex with B'Elanna, but she beats him down, because look at him... Ewwwwwwww. (How is Aaron's health?)

4. B'Elanna demands that Tom services her. Not rape. She says "if you don't #### me, I'm going to die" and Tom replies "No, I can't #### you now, because I love you too much to exploit you. I want our first time to be special!" where after B'Elanna explains in complete clarity "You can't #### me later if I die right now, so ride me hard you Howdy Doody looking mother ####er!" Tom still claims that he is too much of a gentleman to ever disrobe in this situation, so she should start digging her own grave. What a jerk.

5. Vorik says that since B'Elanna won't #### him, the only other way to side step death is to kill Tom. Because that's who she's really into apparently, who knew? Y'know?

6. Roided up B'Elanna crows that no man is going to fight her battles for her, so she wrestles Vorik to the ground, which breaks the fever without turning any one into a murderer.

The end.
 
Blood Fever is a mess of an episode, made messier by the fact that UPN didn't mind some violence, but would never allow the sexual content needed to make that episode work.
"Blood Fever" is a horrible episode. The worst in season 3.

Vorik mind-rapes B'Elanna, tries to physically force himself upon her too and gets away with it. Now that's scary.
 
Sorry to re-quote but I've mulled this over since my last comment. I think the "guy thing" idea might have worked if it had been Tom saying it in a social setting given the relationship between the two, a friend using gallows humour to support him. The doctor, however, is a senior officer and health professional with a duty of care acting in an official capacity. There's an enormous difference.



They could do better than that. They regularly do.
No that's okay re-quote away. I'm actually sorry I was rude to you yesterday.

We were talking here recently about the episode 'Twisted' and I was reminded of the Doctor being pursued by Sandrine when he was stuck on the holodeck. He didn't much care for her advances either and although Harry offered to help they always made The Doctor low priority. Being pursued by a woman is often seen as low priority by both genders.
 
Intent?

Likely Harry and B'Elanna were artificially inseminated with Caretaker jizz, moreso than raped personally by Caretaker, but Harry and Torres were asleep, roofied even. These too kids couldn't have been more raped than that.

Although, there isn't a rape spectrum.

It's binary.

Was Harry forced into something sexual against his will?

Or, was Ch'Rega trying to mount him, without ever asking for consent?

Remember Klingon consent = Not murdering the naked person grabbing at you.

Harry is the problem for not reporting what happened to an authority, if she was a dangerous predator, even if he himself could handle her... Meanwhile the Doctor is a computer program, which means that if Kim had been even nonsexualy assaulted, that an automatic report would have been filled out and sent to Security.

Let's say that a report was filled out by a book keeping subroutine that is barely acknowledged by the high functions of the Doctor's AI, and sent away to security... That would mean that it was Tuvok who disregarded this charge as "nonsense".

Blame Tuvok.

Considering what that woman did to his sheets, what she left in the toilet every morning (Klingons don't flush) you would think that Tuvok would rummage back though his "paperwork" and file that rape allegations just to stop Neelix banging her on top of, and underneath all of Tuvok's furniture.
I thought everyone the Caretaker was attempting to impregnate died? That's why assumed that Kim and B'elanna weren't raped.
 
Everyone died slowly. They were sent to Ocampa to die in comfort. Everyone else who were sent to Ocampa died (including crew from Equinox?). Luckily Federation medicine quickly figured out how to save B'Elanna and Harry from space herpes.
 
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