What you'd like included

[a thousand-yard stare]

Libertarianism v Liberalism.

In TOS they were still trying to find a balance between 'inalienable rights' and The State acting as 'Guarantor' - TOS "Court Martial". Samuel T Cogley references Magna Carta, The Constitution of the United States and The Fundamental Declarations of the Martian Colonies, thus I infer there is still a libertarian foundation to the Law.

Whether this is changed in the 24th century, who knows...

No, Picard is acting thoroughly like himself, the way he's behaved and spoken on many occasions. That his way is "more evolved" and other ways are lesser.

End of Season 1. "The Neutral Zone".
The "red-in-tooth-and-claw" capitalist that Picard has spent the episode belittling, understands and 'reads' the Romulans, while the enlightened captain doesn't have a scooby.

But this is all fictional and if we were sure of the answers, the Jubilee would already be here (subject to pertinent government legislation, of course...)

 

[Nyotarules]

Well, no. The essence is freedom for everyone, not just the people who are like you.

And sadly sometimes one needs the law and the courts to force those freedoms. Unless the Emancipation Proclaimation was a waste of paper cos all Southerners where so looking forward to freeing their slaves. Right???
And as for Jim Crow and his laws...he meant well didn't he?

 

[BillJ]

And sadly ones needs the law and the courts to get that freedom....Unless the Emancipation proclamation was a waste of paper cos all Southerners where so looking forward to freeing their slaves, Right???
And as for Jim Crow and his laws...he meant well didn't he?

All I know is that it isn't liberals in America's bedrooms, a Bible in one hand and a gun in another, telling people who they can and can't sleep with.

 

[Nyotarules]

All I know is that it isn't liberals in America's bedrooms, a Bible in one hand and a gun in another, telling people who they can and can't sleep with.

Maybe they just want to be invited into the bed?

 

[Kor]

I have always maintained that those who 'doth protest too much' about a certain thing actually secretly enjoy or want that thing themselves, and they're really overcompensating from fear that their compatriots will suspect them.

Kor

 

[{ Emilia }]

This wasn't in any way unique to the movie FC.The very essence of liberalism is central government control of society, to use laws and the courts to force people to live by a liberal construct.

That's just plain nonsense. Leave your American partisan politics out of political theory.

You still don't seem to get that authoritarian and libertarian attitudes towards government can be found both on the left and right side of the spectrum.

Like I said the Republicans have been pushing neoliberal economic policies for ages. So have the Democrats. Both are centre right parties economically. When it comes to social policies conservative parties tend to be more authoritarian in the West. Whereas left wing parties favor more regulation in the economic field. What little regulation the Democrats want in the US would still out them in a centre right position in Europe.

 

[psCargile]

All I know is that it isn't liberals in America's bedrooms, a Bible in one hand and a gun in another, telling people who they can and can't sleep with.

That's so 1980s. Gen X conservatives are more libertarian as to give a shit who you're fucking.

Marry who you want, just find a progressive cake baker and leave Christians the hell alone.

I'd like to see leaving those you disagree with alone in a broader scope of tolerance included in the new show.

 

[{ Emilia }]

So in the interest of getting this back on track... Let's talk about star trek.
I'll try to heed my own advice. I promise!

 

[Tenacity]

End of Season 1. "The Neutral Zone".
The "red-in-tooth-and-claw" capitalist that Picard has spent the episode belittling, understands and 'reads' the Romulans, while the enlightened captain doesn't have a scooby.

Picard was in the end willing to accept the observations of a man he personally disliked, when that person was right. That doesn't mean Picard then accepted every aspect of Ralph's philosophy.

Something else I like to see included (well excluded) is to almost complete stay away from Earth, rarely even mentioning it. Even have the Federation Council be on a different planet. Maybe the Council moves every several years.

I'd like to see a slightly more formal work environment, while on duty. Off duty could be a different matter.

 

[OpenMaw]

So in the interest of getting this back on track... Let's talk about star trek.
I'll try to heed my own advice. I promise!

I like the way you think, Emilia. Talking Star Trek!

Something else I like to see included (well excluded) is to almost complete stay away from Earth, rarely even mentioning it. Even have the Federation Council be on a different planet. Maybe the Council moves every several years.

This indeed. Staying out on the frontier for 90-95% of a season/series would be good.

It was one of the few things about the TOS movies that irked me... They are always at home. Star Trek 5 in particular I always thought could have done without the shenanigans and just had the new E out in space doing stuff when they got called in to deal with the situation on Nimbus III.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'd like to meet McCoy's wife. I imagine in the Discovery universe she likely took the whole damn planet in the divorce, too.

 

[Kemaiku]

I'd like to meet McCoy's wife. I imagine in the Discovery universe she likely took the whole damn planet in the divorce, too.

Have a rec-room on Discovery for the lower deck personnel, with one of those power walls covered in dispatches from home. The possibilities to sneak headlines on there for a lot of Trek would be fun. A high profile or embarrasing divorce case could be one of them.

 

[GabyBee]

I'd love to see some of the other prominent Federation member worlds fleshed out a bit. Rigelians, in particular. We have so little hard canon on them, yet they get throwaway reference lines fairly often. Phlox at one point mentions that Rigelians have four or five sexes, which I think would be an interesting notion to explore within the Star Trek universe.

Also, if Humans are going to be a focus, I'm really hoping they do more than just focus on a western Anglo-Saxon perspective. Earth's a big place. Bring on more Chekov types.

 

[The Wormhole]

more Chekov types.

They're called Russians.

 

[GabyBee]

I meant more in the metaphorical sense. More characters that are proudly from [country], and not just a general representative of western Anglo-Saxon culture.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I meant more in the metaphorical sense. More characters that are proudly from [country], and not just a general representative of western Anglo-Saxon culture.

So a Scotty?

 

[Kor]

We should get characters from countries and cultures that are rarely encountered in a western Anglo-Saxon context.

Kor

 

[BillJ]

We should get characters from countries and cultures that are rarely encountered in a western Anglo-Saxon context.

Kor

I wouldn't hold my breath. Since most (all) of the writers are western anglo-saxon and that is the audience they are chasing.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I wouldn't hold my breath. Since most (all) of the writers are western anglo-saxon and that is the audience they are chasing.

I think people from Essex, Sussex and East Anglia might be interested too.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I'd like authentic Earth accents, by today's standards I mean.