What I don't understand about the show being a reboot.
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I thought DS9 did it in a "tongue-in-cheek" or a "wink-and-a-nod" manner that was just a playful Easter egg that fit the generally lighthearted tone of that episode (Trials and Tribble-ations).
Granted -- it was said on film; therefore, it was canon. However, it was just a passing remark in a 10-second scene, and it was summed up quite nicely by Worf (comically, I thought) saying "We do not discuss it with outsiders." Period. End of story.
It was almost as if the producers were admitting that they had no good in-universe explanation -- but nor did I think they needed one. ENT should have just left it at that, and not turn that playful scene from DS9 into something so meaningful.
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To an extent I would almost liken this to the difference between Burton/Nolan/Snyder Batman's.
It's always been my hope that when Trek returned to TV it would be a clean reboot of the series. Whether it was about Kirk/Spock or some new characters all together.
Indeed. I always felt that Enterprise really should have taken a page from SAAB and, knowing they were basically doomed by mid season 4, use the remaining episodes they had left to tell a dramatic story culminating in the series/era finale.
Personally, I don't get why so many people are assuming this show'll be a reboot. We know it's based on an event mentioned in previous series - what's making people assume such continuity breakage? Because things look a bit different? That happens with every new Trek show.
I think it comes down to just how different the new klingons look. It's one thing to alter the look of a familiar species, such as giving the Romulans bumpy foreheads, but the new klingons don't seem to have any familiar traits at all to the way the klingons have been shown since ;The Motion Picture." When you basically start from scratch it's only logical to asume reboot as oposed to same universe with some updated tinkering done to take advantage of modern technology,special effects,, etc.
Jason
Still a rumour.
That's true but as Trek fans it is our duty to take what little information we have and escalate the meaning behind it to every possible scenario we can think of.
JasonThey're not *so* different. They're reddish-brown aliens with armor and ridged foreheads. They have the Klingon checklist down. It doesn't violate canon any more to pretend they always looked like this than it did when people were expected to pretend they always had ridges.
Yeah, but then you would be saying that TNG (or TMP) were reboots of TOS, considering how much of a departure the look of the Klingons were from TOS to TMP/TNG. The look of Klingons have already changed quite a bit between TOS and other incarnations thet are NOT considered reboots, so simply changing the look of Klingons (if that is indeed the case) again would not automatically make DSC a reboot.
As mentioned above, if DSC adheres to the timeline and adheres to the canon (character-wise, story-wise, and history-wise) of the prime universe, then it is a prime universe story and not a reboot, no matter what theatrical makeup they use for the Klingons this time around.
Well well! Michael Dorn is gonna play one of Worf's ancestors in the pilot, so there ya go. Not a reboot. Case closed!
http://www.scifipulse.net/michael-dorn-to-guest-star-on-stdiscovery/
http://www.scifipulse.net/michael-dorn-to-guest-star-on-stdiscovery/
In away TNG was a reboot. Hell I would even say season 3 of TNG was a reboot from season 1 and 2 of TNG. I would call them loose reboot's in that you can use stuff that was established but we can change a lot of the detail's or irgnore stuff if you want to. The is no real need to make the TNG and TOS version of the trek universe look the same but it's okay to asume that in TNG there was a Enterprise with Kirk,Spock,McCOy etc that happened. WIth the new show we will be getting both a new look at the universe but I asume we will be seeing familiar character's that are recasted all the time they are used instead of it being a rare thing like we got with Ziyal and whatnot. That is how I think "Discovery" is going to be. It is going to be a kind of "TNG" vs "TOS". Which is different from say a TNG vs DS9 or VOyager since that shows feel much more connected to each other than they do to the "TOS" show.
Jason
And here's a sneak peek!
Thanks to image source:
http://nocturnalmarauder.deviantart.com/art/Worf-during-the-TOS-Era-414687647
Because no characters from the oldTrek universe appeared in the movie reboot, right?
The Worf family line can exist in a rebooted Star Trek just as comfortably as the Sarek line.
Other than the fact that the article called his character Worf's "ancestor" in one paragraph and his "descendant" in another, I found this part especially funny:
"...with Orlando Shakes Jim Helsinger asking the well known thespian..."
Thespian.
I suppose he is technically a thespian, but I would reserve that word for better actors. I had no major problem with Dorn's acting abilities as Worf; he wasn't great, but he was adequate for the role of a stick-up-his-butt Klingon. I've seen Dorn in other things and I think "meh".
However, when I hear "Thespian", and can't help but think of this guy:
"...with Orlando Shakes Jim Helsinger asking the well known thespian..."
Thespian.
I suppose he is technically a thespian, but I would reserve that word for better actors. I had no major problem with Dorn's acting abilities as Worf; he wasn't great, but he was adequate for the role of a stick-up-his-butt Klingon. I've seen Dorn in other things and I think "meh".
However, when I hear "Thespian", and can't help but think of this guy:
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Wait. Are you saying that Number One, Nurse Chapel, and Lwaxana Troi are not related?
