Spider-Man: Homecoming' anticipation thread

[JD]

The previous two cinematic takes on Spidey couldn't wait to get Peter out of high school, so I guess it makes sense to try something different. I don't think it really fits in with the MCU's generally progressing in real time (with the occasional exception), but whatever.

GoTG Vol. 2 takes place only a couple months after Vol. 1 and Dr. Strange covers the same as at least a couple other movies, so they have been playing around with the timeline a bit more lately.
I don't mind them keeping Peter in high school for a while, it's a nice way to make him feel unique in the MCU.

 

[Venardhi]

It isn't like there are a ton of Marvel heroes dealing with pledge week, snooping RAs and putting themselves through college. He would be unique in the universe either way.

 

[Tosk]

so they have been playing around with the timeline a bit more lately.

Not just lately. Incredible Hulk covers time from before Iron Man all the way up until after Thor and Iron Man 2.

 

[WebLurker]

I don't mind them keeping Peter in high school for a while, it's a nice way to make him feel unique in the MCU.

I think the thing is that all the other movies have had a similar timeframe; the Raimi movies covered him from eighteen to very early twenties, the ASM movies were teens to eighteen. More variety would be nice (I was frankly hoping we'd get enough movies so that we could see the character grow up onscreen; start with the high school years and end with stuff based on the series where he's and adult and raising a family and whatnot.)

 

[DigificWriter]

The MCU has never operated in "real-time", to be perfectly honest. Case in point: with the exception of Captain America: The First Avenger, every movie in Phase One takes place over the course of a single week.

We don't have an exact timeframe for the events of Phases Two and Three, but it would not surprise me at all to learn that every major thing we saw in both of those "phases" was happening concurrently.

 

[KyleRaynous]

After all these trailers, can you change the title of the thread to Iron Man 3.5? Jeez, it's worse than Civil War being called a Capitan America movie. Even Vulture's origin seems attached to Iron Man. How can they come to depend so much on the Avengers when they have the superhero that has more material on its own in the entire Marvel Universe?

 

[DigificWriter]

After all these trailers, can you change the title of the thread to Iron Man 3.5? Jeez, it's worse than Civil War being called a Capitan America movie. Even Vulture's origin seems attached to Iron Man. How can they come to depend so much on the Avengers when they have the superhero that has more material on its own in the entire Marvel Universe?

This kind of reaction is a gross exaggeration, as Tony's entire involvement with Homecoming amounts to 15 minutes of total screentime, as per statements from people directly involved with the film.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

This kind of reaction is a gross exaggeration, as Tony's entire involvement with Homecoming amounts to 15 minutes of total screentime, as per statements from people directly involved with the film.

And mentioned repeatedly in this thread.

 

[KyleRaynous]

This kind of reaction is a gross exaggeration, as Tony's entire involvement with Homecoming amounts to 15 minutes of total screentime, as per statements from people directly involved with the film.

Even so, the film revolves around Peter Park detaching himself from Tony Stark's figure in order to prove himself, Adrian Toomes appearing on the scene for something related to Tony Stark, even Iron Man helping Spidey in what seems the final battle, not without mentioning him taking Spidey's suit away from Peter. It sounds like too much Iron Man presence for what the plot is. In Civil War, at least they bring him up as the antithesis of Rogers in face of the Sokovia Accords.

 

[DigificWriter]

Even so, the film revolves around Peter Park detaching himself from Tony Stark's figure in order to prove himself, Adrian Toomes appearing on the scene for something related to Tony Stark, even Iron Man helping Spidey in what seems the final battle, not without mentioning him taking Spidey's suit away from Peter. It sounds like too much Iron Man presence for what the plot is. In Civil War, at least they bring him up as the antithesis of Rogers in face of the Sokovia Accords.

I don't really know what you think Homecoming's plot is, but aside from potential flashbacks to when he was just starting out, this version of Spidey is inextricably tied to Tony by virtue of the fact that the very first time we're introduced to him, it is as Tony's protege, so it's honestly an inevitability that Tony was going to have something to do with the story of Homecoming. I have my own reservations about the extent of Tony's involvement in the movie (largely because I was a little ambivalent about the way they tied him and Peter together in Civil War), but 15 minutes TOTAL out of whatever the film's overall runtime is really isn't all that much.

 

[LJones41]

The MCU has never operated in "real-time", to be perfectly honest. Case in point: with the exception of Captain America: The First Avenger, every movie in Phase One takes place over the course of a single week.

Only three films took place during a single week:
*"Iron Man 2"
*Thor
*The Incredible Hulk"

The other two films - "Iron Man" and "Captain America: The First Avenger" - were not.

 

[KyleRaynous]

I don't really know what you think Homecoming's plot is

Only what I saw so far in the trailers. As you know, a trailer these days tells you pretty much the whole movie by itself.

 

[Jax]

a trailer these days tells you pretty much the whole movie by itself.

This complaint of trailers is so overblown and tiresome, its become a cliche.

 

[WebLurker]

Only three films took place during a single week:
*"Iron Man 2"
*Thor
*The Incredible Hulk"

The other two films - "Iron Man" and "Captain America: The First Avenger" - were not.

Since nine times out of ten, the movies take place in the year they were released, so there has been some real time progression.

 

[KyleRaynous]

This complaint of trailers is so overblown and tiresome, its become a cliche.

Does that make it any less true?

 

[DigificWriter]

Does that make it any less true?

Yes.

 

[JD]

I think it's pretty clear from the trailer, that even if Iron Man is in the movie it is still clearly Spider-Man's movie. It does look like their relationship is a fairly significant part of the movie, but we're looking at it from Peter's perspective. In the ferry scene, Iron Man is showing up to help Spider-Man, when Tony takes his suit away, we're focusing on how Peter reacts to losing the suit rather than Tony motivations, at least in the trailer. The important thing for determining whose movie it isn't just who appears, it's whose perspective we follow, and whose actions propel the plot the most.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Only what I saw so far in the trailers. As you know, a trailer these days tells you pretty much the whole movie by itself.

Have you ever seen some "old-school" trailers? They gave more detail about the plot than Wikipedia!

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I think it's pretty clear from the trailer, that even if Iron Man is in the movie it is still clearly Spider-Man's movie. It does look like their relationship is a fairly significant part of the movie, but we're looking at it from Peter's perspective. In the ferry scene, Iron Man is showing up to help Spider-Man, when Tony takes his suit away, we're focusing on how Peter reacts to losing the suit rather than Tony motivations, at least in the trailer. The important thing for determining whose movie it isn't just who appears, it's whose perspective we follow, and whose actions propel the plot the most.

...just like Civil War.

 

[Tosk]

with the exception of Captain America: The First Avenger, every movie in Phase One takes place over the course of a single week.

No they don't. Incredible Hulk covers at least a month.