Spider-Man: Homecoming' anticipation thread

[Anwar]

Daredevil did so as well without utilizing any of the mains.

Daredevil did need the Alien Invasion from Avengers to happen though, it was clearly stated that event is what allowed Fisk to build up a power base and for Matt to be able to set up shop with Foggy.

My main concern is that RDJ will dominate the story line, and overshadow the main.

I doubt it, seeing how he's only in the movie for 15 minutes.

 

[Christopher]

Daredevil did so as well without utilizing any of the mains.

Because it couldn't. It was made by the TV division and didn't have the option of coordinating closely with the movie division, let alone being able to pay for the movie actors to appear. Homecoming is made by the movie division, so it can do both those things. So why not take advantage of that opportunity? Heck, the whole reason Sony struck this deal with Marvel was so that they could take advantage of the possibilities of having a Spider-Man who was fully a part of the MCU. So why is it even remotely surprising that that's what they've actually done?

My main concern is that RDJ will dominate the story line, and overshadow the main.

What Anwar said. There's no sense continuing to dwell on a concern that's already been assuaged.

 

[fireproof78]

Daredevil did need the Alien Invasion from Avengers to happen though, it was clearly stated that event is what allowed Fisk to build up a power base and for Matt to be able to set up shop with Foggy.

How is that contradictory to my point?

I doubt it, seeing how he's only in the movie for 15 minutes.

Suddenly movie execs are trustworthy? Boy, the internet has changed since CBS released statements about Discovery.

It's a concern that I have. I don't expect it to be shared.

Because it couldn't. It was made by the TV division and didn't have the option of coordinating closely with the movie division, let alone being able to pay for the movie actors to appear. Homecoming is made by the movie division, so it can do both those things. So why not take advantage of that opportunity? Heck, the whole reason Sony struck this deal with Marvel was so that they could take advantage of the possibilities of having a Spider-Man who was fully a part of the MCU. So why is it even remotely surprising that that's what they've actually done?




What Anwar said. There's no sense continuing to dwell on a concern that's already been assuaged.

Nothing is surprising to me regarding the MCU or the way it is constructed.

Note: I'm not sitting here in my house wringing my hands over worry that RDJ will dominate those 15 minutes. I personally don't think it is a good fit between the characters, regardless of what is established in Civil War.

No, it's not rational, it's not logical. It's just a gut instinct, which I have in watching the trailers. Except for this thread, I'll likely not think on it until I see or don't see the film.

 

[JD]

A lot of the sites have started posting stories from a press set visit that they did while the movie was filming.
Interesting tidbits from IGN's article:

• We won't be seeing Spidey swinging up through the Manhattan skyscrapers, other than the stuff in DC, he'll be sticking around Queens and won't really go higher than 4 or 5 stories.
• Ned isn't Ned Leeds.
• We'll get some scenes set in Berlin around the airport fight in Civil War
• The Vulture wings are based on scavanged alien tech
• We will get references to the origin story, but we won't see it at all

 

[fireproof78]

A lot of the sites have started posting stories from a press set visit that they did while the movie was filming.
Interesting tidbits from IGN's article:

• We won't be seeing Spidey swinging up through the Manhattan skyscrapers, other than the stuff in DC, he'll be sticking around Queens and won't really go higher than 4 or 5 stories.
• Ned isn't Ned Leeds.
• We'll get some scenes set in Berlin around the airport fight in Civil War
• The Vulture wings are based on scavanged alien tech
• We will get references to the origin story, but we won't see it at all

That's quite interesting that it doesn't go full origin story. I like that they don't feel that need to show it again.

 

[LJones41]

We won't be seeing Spidey swinging up through the Manhattan skyscrapers, other than the stuff in DC, he'll be sticking around Queens and won't really go higher than 4 or 5 stories.

Pity.

Well, the Webb/Garfield reboot got a lot of complaints that it wasn't distinct enough from the Raimi/Maguire films to justify being a reboot.

That complaint doesn't make sense to me, considering the numerous differences between the Rami/Maguire films and the Webb/Garfield movies.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Pity about the lack of skyscraper web-slinging, but I'm relieved that we won't get another hashing of the origin story and that Ned isn't Ned Leeds.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

What are you suggesting? Spidey can't really be standalone anymore.

He can as much as Cap was in Winter Soldier--a post Avengers film where a series of major events were happening, yet Cap had no help from "A" characters Iron Man, Thor or the Hulk. The point is that every superhero film need not use major, "A" level characters, and/or reference said characters and films unless absolutely necessary. For example, the Spider-Man comics of the Silver/Bronze Age were great examples of his universe being rich without much participation from any other Marvel (hero) characters. It granted the largely solo character the room to develop as his own identity, and not always have a link to the other titles/characters. The same applies to film, where Spider-Man/Pakrer was a hero before ever meeting Stark, and has his own motives for fighting crime. This is especially important with the Spider-Man character in this first film.

If it makes sense, there's always other chapters where guests play a role.

 

[Christopher]

Pity about the lack of skyscraper web-slinging...

They say he's still working up to that, so we'll probably see it in later movies. I guess it's one more way they're trying to avoid copying the previous films, which made heavy use of that sort of thing.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

That complaint doesn't make sense to me, considering the numerous differences between the Rami/Maguire films and the Webb/Garfield movies.

True--the biggest complaint was the Garfield films being pointless / misguided, and lacked any of the quality of the Raimi series.

 

[Anwar]

He can as much as Cap was in Winter Soldier--a post Avengers film where a series of major events were happening, yet Cap had no help from "A" characters Iron Man, Thor or the Hulk. The point is that every superhero film need not use major, "A" level characters, and/or reference said characters and films unless absolutely necessary.

And here, they do think its' necessary because they don't want to just do the Raimi movies or the Garfield movies all over again. They want to try something different.

 

[Turtletrekker]

15 minutes of screen time isn't anything to worry about. We also know that we're going to be seeing at least a brief Chris Evans cameo, and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Scarlett Johansson at some point in the movie because she was spotted in Atlanta during filming. And that's not anything to worry about either. This movie takes place in the MCU. That's something to embrace rather than resist.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

They say he's still working up to that, so we'll probably see it in later movies. I guess it's one more way they're trying to avoid copying the previous films, which made heavy use of that sort of thing.

Yeah, that makes sense, but it's still a bit disappointing because it's such an iconic element of Spider-Man lore. It's like not having Spider-Man deliver quips while he's fighting (oh, wait...). Still, it at least it's something to look forward to in subsequent films.

 

[LJones41]

I heard a rumor that Marvel/Disney plan a Spider-Man trilogy with Peter Parker solely in high school. I hope this isn't true.

 

[Christopher]

I heard a rumor that Marvel/Disney plan a Spider-Man trilogy with Peter Parker solely in high school. I hope this isn't true.

That's not a rumor, it's confirmed:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/04...ed-on-the-set-of-spider-man-homecoming?page=2

Essentially, Sony and Marvel want to take the Harry Potter approach of one movie per grade, which would mean Spidey would just be graduating from high school by the time we get to the second sequel to Homecoming.

 

[LJones41]

That's not a rumor, it's confirmed:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/04...ed-on-the-set-of-spider-man-homecoming?page=2

Oh God. Why do so many filmmakers think that the epitome of the Spider-man titles had occurred when Peter was in high school?

 

[Christopher]

Oh God. Why do so many filmmakers think that the epitome of the Spider-man titles had occurred when Peter was in high school?

I don't know -- that phase in the original comics lasted only a few years. I think maybe it's the influence of the Ultimate Universe.

Still, there's something to be said for the approach here. We've seen the MCU from the perspective of lots of big, important people; it could be interesting to see a movie from the perspective of an everyday kid who grew up in a world where superheroes existed and was influenced by their actions.

 

[fireproof78]

15 minutes of screen time isn't anything to worry about. We also know that we're going to be seeing at least a brief Chris Evans cameo, and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Scarlett Johansson at some point in the movie because she was spotted in Atlanta during filming. And that's not anything to worry about either. This movie takes place in the MCU. That's something to embrace rather than resist.

It's all in the execution. Right now, for me, I'm skeptical.

 

[Skywalker]

The previous two cinematic takes on Spidey couldn't wait to get Peter out of high school, so I guess it makes sense to try something different. I don't think it really fits in with the MCU's generally progressing in real time (with the occasional exception), but whatever.

 

[Venardhi]

I lean towards that quote being taken too seriously. If he is a senior in the next standalone film (and in highschool during any crossovers in the mean time) and heads off to college in the next one, that is still a lot more time spent in highschool than either previous incarnation.