Captain Sisko (in Bing Badda Bang) would disagree with you.
Are there too many white people in Star Trek?
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Riker is a American according to Picard in one episode, and Picard himself is obviously French.
O'Brien is Irish, and (iirc) Eddington is a Canadian.
Where I come from, "race" means go fast and turn left.
I disagree, Sisko decorates his quarters with objects that say that he very much identifies with being Black and of African ancestry.
hmmm, sadly i might have to grant you this one....but only insofar as people honour their cultural heritage.
Riker is not American, Picard is not French, they are descended from people that were and acknowledge that in their lifestyle choices. The actual countries themselves no longer exist except in the most abstract of terms.
Riker is not American, Picard is not French, they are descended from people that were and acknowledge that in their lifestyle choices. The actual countries themselves no longer exist except in the most abstract of terms.
Then there's Chekov, and Season 1 Picard riffing on Chekov a couple of times.
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How long would a thread called "too many black people in Star Trek?" have lasted here?
Hypocrites.
Hypocrites.
Whether or not the "old nations" still retain any separate sovereignty is unknown, but the the places still exist. Earth is huge. When someone says to Riker, you're from Canada, right? He replies "Alaska, actually." There are still countries. Scotty is from Scotland. O'Brien from Ireland. Chekov from Russia. Riker not from Canada. Uhura's mother tongue is Swahili. Kirk is from America. There are even states still from the U.S.
They could also just be place names and not references to nation states. For instance, I live in New England. New England has no legal or political status. It is just a colloquial and historical term for a specific part of North America. The same could be true in the future when Kirk says "I'm from Iowa". He's just likely talking about a part of the world, and not in reference to a political entity.
Are/were there too many white people in Hollywood?
It's pretty obvious that white/Caucasian/European humans are over-represented in Star Trek, and Asians (specifically Chinese) are vastly under-represented, making up as they do around 60% of the current global population. Looks like Discovery is at least attempting to do something about that.
But it's a result of Hollywood demographics, and not really worth a great deal of discussion.
But it's a result of Hollywood demographics, and not really worth a great deal of discussion.
Not getting through all these. Before I go... No, it's not that there aren't lots of non-white people in Trek because they're appealing to a white demographic to make money. That's ridiculous and racist. They use mainly white actors just because they are making a TV show in Los Angeles, California, where most of the actors who walk in for auditions are white. That's ALL. So why bring it up? We know that.
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If they wanted to cast heavily from other ethnic groups, they would have a much smaller pool of actors to choose from.
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You might as well wonder, why are they mostly Americans? Same answer of course, Los Angeles is populated by Americans. Why's practically everyone in Dr Who British?
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If they wanted to cast heavily from other ethnic groups, they would have a much smaller pool of actors to choose from.
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You might as well wonder, why are they mostly Americans? Same answer of course, Los Angeles is populated by Americans. Why's practically everyone in Dr Who British?
Place names, nothing get more. Not having nation states would not remove the need to identify locations and the previous existing names we have for them serve as well as any other, especially when they have the dual purpose of also being meaningful to the viewer.
What could lead you to this? Yes there is a international organization of some sort called United Earth, but this on no way implies that the hundreds of nation/states have disappeared or been dissolved.
We hear characters speaking of their home countries.
Well, there is that line from First Contact about how after the Third World War there were "very few governments left". And several political entities have been identified as pre-United Earth forerunners, such as the European Hegemony, African Confederation, and the Pan-Caribbean.
Governments come and go, that doesn't mean the the nations disappear.
Plus I feel that the line "very few governments left" would have referred to the governments directly involve in WWIII, and not the majority of governments elsewhere on Earth.
Actually, there is.
Even with the rise of United Earth as the global government, the USA still exists as one of the nation-states that comprise it. Just like how the USA still has states, Canada still has provinces, etc. This is just kicking it up a level.
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