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TNG/DS9/Voy Finale Movie

No. They'd never keep Data/Spiner away. It'd be tough to include Neelix/Phipps. Avery Brooks might be a bit annoyed if they had all the captains but not him....

I just realized, with the CGI'd characters in the new SW movie, they could easily make Data appear as he did during TNG's season one...
 
Hell, no :lol:.

It's not an age thing. Most of them have moved on. You do realize that while they may have enjoyed doing it, it was still a job for them. Most of us don't want to do the same job (with same task and same position of power/authority within the organization/company/institute) for forty years, even if it was a job we enjoyed at one point.

Who would write the thing...produce and direct. Who would have bigger part(s) than who. Too much headaches. It's not going to happen. Not enough of them want it. Some of them may flirt with the idea at conventions but.... no...just no.
 
Hell, no :lol:.

It's not an age thing. Most of them have moved on. You do realize that while they may have enjoyed doing it, it was still a job for them. Most of us don't want to do the same job (with same task and same position of power/authority within the organization/company/institute) for forty years, even if it was a job we enjoyed at one point.

Who would write the thing...produce and direct. Who would have bigger part(s) than who. Too much headaches. It's not going to happen. Not enough of them want it. Some of them may flirt with the idea at conventions but.... no...just no.
When was the last time such a finale was feasible?
 
When was it feasible? Never :lol:

Paramount wouldn't sink that much money on a whole bunch of "nobodies". For one thing, they'll feel too many viewers would be off put by all those unknown cast members, not knowing all the backstories that would help them understand the plot of the movie they'd have to do to include all those characters.... That's why the movies always has the "Enterprise" crew....
 
Ratings would have been dismal and most of the viewers would have been serious trek fans...

Les Moonves wouldn't have allowed it :lol:
 
By the way, are we getting this from somebody who saw Spiner say it, or somebody who read about Spiner saying it or from somebodey who heard it fro ma guy who claims Spiner said it? Spiner tends to joke around a lot for the audience in convention interviews (I love his Stewart inpersonations).
 
I seem to recall an article in one of those sci fi magazines right after Nemesis came out, which appeared to have been written by Spiner and his tone was a bit snippy. But you are correct about Spiner...having a peculiar sense of humor that some may not realize at times...like I do :lol:
 
OK::

Picard - can come back but Sir Pat said he feels he's moved on
Riker - Yes, probably would do it
Troi - Yes would probably do it
Data - dead
Worf - yes but wants to come back in his own show (cough)
LaForge - probably
Crusher - probably
Sisko - Avery seems to have moved on, won't do the documentary
Kira - probably
Odo - maybe as an Ambassador?
Bashir - probs
O'Brien - probs
Ezri - maybe
Jake - technically came back in the new RENEGADES
Quark - most likely
Janeway - would very likely do it
Chakotay - technically came back in the new RENEGADES
Tuvok - Tim has been back as Tuvok for numerous projects
B'Elanna - Dawson is a director now
Paris - voiced in STO
Kim - Wang would likely do it
The Doctor - played Zimmerman in RENEGADES, said it would be illogical to play the Doctor now as he looks older 'he could be programmed to look older' is illogical
Seven of Nine - possibly
Neelix - maybe

Abotu 15 years ago I wrote the idea for a Star Trek: Voyager movie which started at DS9, had Voyager with Worf going across the Neutral Zone to save Ambassador Spock from the Romulans.It was basically a Voyager movie with a trip to DS9.

I still imagine a TNG/DS9/VOY revivial film to begin at DS9, then maybe two ships go on the mission.
 
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I saved this to my hard drive, as an idea I had around 2010 or so.

STAR TREK
L E G A C Y

Film opens in 2387 with scenes involving the destruction of Romulus. Possibly Nimoy back as Spock, if that can be worked in... sadly probably now using reused footage and CG trickery. That’s your big Praxis moment that sets up a chain of events for the rest of the story.

Many years have passed (it’s possibly the eve of the 25th Century) and an older bearded, Admiral Picard is teaching a class at Starfleet Academy about early Federation history.

Next scene with Captain Riker aboard the Titan, on its way to the new Romulan Homeworld – Quirinus*, to provide aid and resettlement… continue peace dialogue with Ambassadors onboard, when it’s attacked and destroyed.

Picard seizing the opportunity to get back to being on the Enterprise, rushes a round-up of TNG characters. But some can’t make it… Worf is within the Klingon Empire but promises to provide support. LaForge is Captain of his own Galaxy class, the Challenger. So the Enterprise-E is pulled out of mothballs and sent out with whoever is available. Admiral Picard advises, with an all-new character as Captain (he’s probably going to die as is the tradition), Miles O’Brien takes over Engineering, Tuvok at Security/Tactical, an EMH in sickbay (maybe the VOY one, since he’s given full rights as an individual) and Deanna Troi, career paths having forced her marriage to Riker apart at this point.

One or more of the Crusher family and B-4 (whether or not, he’s Data) don’t make it aboard in time but are seen briefly in transmissions to the Titan or the Enterprise. Offering assistance, tracking down information and passing it along, in little scenes.

Surviving Titan crewmembers including Riker are being held by the Romulans, and about to publically executed in a broadcast in front of the whole Star Empire. Diplomacy appears to win through when Picard arrives. A breakway military fraction (possibly led by Sela or a Tomalak figure) having been using the capture of the Starfleet Officers as leverage to meet with the new Romulan government and expressly with people from the Federation in attendance. There they present some shocking secret evidence they obtained, that threatens to derail negotations to incorporate the Star Empire into the UFP.

It’s historic footage taken at an event instrumental in the formation of the Federation, depicting a key moment in the Earth-Romulan War. That allows Captain Archer to put in an appearance from two centuries past. He’s shown giving orders to destroy a Romulan flotilla carrying dignitaries trying to broker peace, just days before the Federation charter was signed. (A moment Picard had been showing earlier in class.)

Picard (plus a couple of others advising) are kept in enemy hands and agrees to take part in a trial against the Federation. Some slimy Romulan prosecutor dredges up all the wrongs the alliance of worlds has ever allowed to happen… including the destruction of their homeworld. Various attempts by humans to keep the Vulcans and Romulans apart are cited in their case against the UFP.

Meanwhile the Enterprise, with Riker in charge has been ordered back into Federation space. The crew (that’s O’Brien, Tuvok, the EMH, among others) race against time and across the quadrant, to bring Picard the proof he needs. Going up against some strong opposition to find what they’re looking for.

There’s a stopover at DS9 to retreive information (for a price naturally) from Quark on the whereabouts of an extremely eldery Andorian, who can provide eyewitness testimony and evidence, needed to sway the Romulans.

There’s a clash between the Enterprise and (Sela’s or the Tomalak kind of leader’s) Romulan ships, in trying to get back to Quirinus. This is where Captain Geordi LaForge’s support on the Challenger comes into play. When that fails, Governor Worf arrives with Bird of Prey backup.

In the end, Picard is able to provide proof that the historical records about Archer’s actions at the heart of all this, have been forged. For the Andorian brought by the Enterprise-E… is Shran – doing all this to repay one final debt to his long dead ally. More than that to have the upper hand on him.

It’s all been a conspiracy, designed to ensure what’s left of the Star Empire would launch into one final war with the Federation. To keep a once proud empire from joining their Vulcan brothers, on their enemy’s terms.

And in return, the Prateor reveals some unreleased information he has on Ambassador Spock’s fate. A last recorded final transmission or message received from the Vulcan a lá “The Immunity Syndrome”.

From that and the ship's telemetry, the new mix n’ match Enterprise-E crew are somehow able to determine that Spock survived the supernova which destroyed Romulus, making it through to the other side of the Red Matter black hole created to stop it.

* Quirinus being the name of a new capital planet survivors fled to in the Romulan Star Empire… Probably not such a catchy name, but it continues a Roman mythical influence – it being the name of a deity Romulus was supposed to have become after his death.


Star Trek Legacy, because it effectively criss-crosses all the generations within the same plot. No time-travel. From a TOS character at the start, to TNG/VGR ones coming together, some unseen ENT to fight over and a dash of DS9. A lot taken from the sixth film, which is more my favourite of the TOS ones and the perfect example how to do a last hoorah and say goodbye.

While I’ve tried not to rely on anything that can’t be shown in the film itself.

I suggested it over in a thread where somebody brought up how they'd handle the last TNG movie. And I had some spare time to organise my thoughts into a story with a beginning, middle and end. Rather than a list of stuff I'd like to see, just to throw out there, in a random order. In-universe motivation to back up how I can pick and choose a few ex-Voyager crewmembers, throwing them on the Enterprise is perhaps sheer fan fiction. But hey, they're in Starfleet and have to obey when an Admiral comes knocking. I see maybe O'Brien being at a stage in life, Molly all grown up and Keiko off Earth for some reason - to go running off for an adventure. The Enterprise-E at one of DS9's docking pylons is something I've wanted to see, while they check in on Quark.
 
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I saved this to my hard drive, as an idea I had around 2010 or so.

STAR TREK
L E G A C Y

Film opens in 2387 with scenes involving the destruction of Romulus. Possibly Nimoy back as Spock, if that can be worked in... sadly probably now using reused footage and CG trickery. That’s your big Praxis moment that sets up a chain of events for the rest of the story.

Many years have passed (it’s possibly the eve of the 25th Century) and an older bearded, Admiral Picard is teaching a class at Starfleet Academy about early Federation history.

Next scene with Captain Riker aboard the Titan, on its way to the new Romulan Homeworld – Quirinus*, to provide aid and resettlement… continue peace dialogue with Ambassadors onboard, when it’s attacked and destroyed.

Picard seizing the opportunity to get back to being on the Enterprise, rushes a round-up of TNG characters. But some can’t make it… Worf is within the Klingon Empire but promises to provide support. LaForge is Captain of his own Galaxy class, the Challenger. So the Enterprise-E is pulled out of mothballs and sent out with whoever is available. Admiral Picard advises, with an all-new character as Captain (he’s probably going to die as is the tradition), Miles O’Brien takes over Engineering, Tuvok at Security/Tactical, an EMH in sickbay (maybe the VOY one, since he’s given full rights as an individual) and Deanna Troi, career paths having forced her marriage to Riker apart at this point.

One or more of the Crusher family and B-4 (whether or not, he’s Data) don’t make it aboard in time but are seen briefly in transmissions to the Titan or the Enterprise. Offering assistance, tracking down information and passing it along, in little scenes.

Surviving Titan crewmembers including Riker are being held by the Romulans, and about to publically executed in a broadcast in front of the whole Star Empire. Diplomacy appears to win through when Picard arrives. A breakway military fraction (possibly led by Sela or a Tomalak figure) having been using the capture of the Starfleet Officers as leverage to meet with the new Romulan goverment and expressly with people from the Federation in attendance. There they present some shocking secret evidence they obtained, that threatens to derail negotations to incorporate the Star Empire into the UFP.

It’s historic footage taken at an event instrumental in the formation of the Federation, depicting a key moment in the Earth-Romulan War. That allows Captain Archer to put in an appearance from two centuries past. He’s shown giving orders to destroy a Romulan flotilla carrying dignitaries trying to broker peace, just days before the Federation charter was signed. (A moment Picard had been showing earlier in class.)

Picard (plus a couple of others advising) are kept in enemy hands and agrees to take part in a trial against the Federation. Some slimy Romulan prosecutor dredges up all the wrongs the alliance of worlds has ever allowed to happen… including the destruction of their homeworld. Various attempts by humans to keep the Vulcans and Romulans apart.

Meanwhile the Enterprise, with Riker in charge has been ordered back into Federation space. The crew (that’s O’Brien, Tuvok, the EMH, among others) race against time and across the quadrant, to bring Picard the proof he needs. Going up against some strong opposition to find what they’re looking for.

There’s a stopover at DS9 to retreive information (for a price naturally) from Quark on the whereabouts of an extremely eldery Andorian, who can provide eyewitness testimony and evidence, needed to sway the Romulans.

There’s a clash between the Enterprise and (Sela’s or the Tomalak kind of leader’s) Romulan ships, in trying to get back to Quirinus. This is where Captain Geordi LaForge’s support on the Challenger comes into play. When that fails, Governor Worf arrives with Bird of Prey backup.

In the end, Picard is able to provide proof that the historical records about Archer’s actions at the heart of all this, have been forged. For the Andorian brought by the Enterprise-E… is Shran – doing all this to repay one final debt to his long dead ally. More than that to have the upper hand on him.

It’s all been a conspiracy, designed to ensure what’s left of the Star Empire would launch into one final war with the Federation. To keep a once proud empire from joining their Vulcan brothers, on their enemy’s terms.

And in return, the Prateor reveals some unreleased information he has on Ambassador Spock’s fate. A last recorded final transmission or message received from the Vulcan a lá “The Immunity Syndrome”.

From that and the ship's telemetry, the new mix n’ match Enterprise-E crew are somehow able to determine that Spock survived the supernova which destroyed Romulus, making it through to the other side of the Red Matter black hole created to stop it.

* Quirinus being the name of a new capital planet survivors fled to in the Romulan Star Empire… Probably not such a catchy name, but it continues a Roman mythical influence – it being the name of a deity Romulus was supposed to have become after his death.


Star Trek Legacy, because it effectively criss-crosses all the generations within the same plot. No time-travel. From a TOS character at the start, to TNG/VGR ones coming together, some unseen ENT to fight over and a dash of DS9. A lot taken from the sixth film, which is more my favourite of the TOS ones and the perfect example how to do a last hoorah and say goodbye.

While I’ve tried not to rely on anything that can’t be shown in the film itself.

I suggested it over in a thread where somebody brought up how they'd handle the last TNG movie. And I had some spare time to organise my thoughts into a story with a beginning, middle and end. Rather than a list of stuff I'd like to see, just to throw out there, in a random order. In-universe motivation to back up how I can pick and choose a few ex-Voyager crewmembers, throwing them on the Enterprise is perhaps sheer fan fiction. But hey, they're in Starfleet and have to obey when an Admiral comes knocking. I see maybe O'Brien being at a stage in life, Molly all grown up and Keiko off Earth for some reason - to go running off for an adventure. The Enterprise-E at one of DS9's docking pylons is something I've wanted to see, while they check in on Quark.

Great job! I'd watch that

Excitement, a bit of politics, crossover between all 5 shows, the Supernova bit ties loosely to the JJVerse, familiar faces with character development adventure and multiple familiar locations. All wrapped in a cohesive plot. I enjoyed that!

It'd be more likely Sela than Tomalak, get another old regular back (Denise Crosby).
 
I saved this to my hard drive, as an idea I had around 2010 or so.

STAR TREK
L E G A C Y

Film opens in 2387 with scenes involving the destruction of Romulus. Possibly Nimoy back as Spock, if that can be worked in... sadly probably now using reused footage and CG trickery. That’s your big Praxis moment that sets up a chain of events for the rest of the story.

Many years have passed (it’s possibly the eve of the 25th Century) and an older bearded, Admiral Picard is teaching a class at Starfleet Academy about early Federation history.

Next scene with Captain Riker aboard the Titan, on its way to the new Romulan Homeworld – Quirinus*, to provide aid and resettlement… continue peace dialogue with Ambassadors onboard, when it’s attacked and destroyed.

Picard seizing the opportunity to get back to being on the Enterprise, rushes a round-up of TNG characters. But some can’t make it… Worf is within the Klingon Empire but promises to provide support. LaForge is Captain of his own Galaxy class, the Challenger. So the Enterprise-E is pulled out of mothballs and sent out with whoever is available. Admiral Picard advises, with an all-new character as Captain (he’s probably going to die as is the tradition), Miles O’Brien takes over Engineering, Tuvok at Security/Tactical, an EMH in sickbay (maybe the VOY one, since he’s given full rights as an individual) and Deanna Troi, career paths having forced her marriage to Riker apart at this point.

One or more of the Crusher family and B-4 (whether or not, he’s Data) don’t make it aboard in time but are seen briefly in transmissions to the Titan or the Enterprise. Offering assistance, tracking down information and passing it along, in little scenes.

Surviving Titan crewmembers including Riker are being held by the Romulans, and about to publically executed in a broadcast in front of the whole Star Empire. Diplomacy appears to win through when Picard arrives. A breakway military fraction (possibly led by Sela or a Tomalak figure) having been using the capture of the Starfleet Officers as leverage to meet with the new Romulan government and expressly with people from the Federation in attendance. There they present some shocking secret evidence they obtained, that threatens to derail negotations to incorporate the Star Empire into the UFP.

It’s historic footage taken at an event instrumental in the formation of the Federation, depicting a key moment in the Earth-Romulan War. That allows Captain Archer to put in an appearance from two centuries past. He’s shown giving orders to destroy a Romulan flotilla carrying dignitaries trying to broker peace, just days before the Federation charter was signed. (A moment Picard had been showing earlier in class.)

Picard (plus a couple of others advising) are kept in enemy hands and agrees to take part in a trial against the Federation. Some slimy Romulan prosecutor dredges up all the wrongs the alliance of worlds has ever allowed to happen… including the destruction of their homeworld. Various attempts by humans to keep the Vulcans and Romulans apart are cited in their case against the UFP.

Meanwhile the Enterprise, with Riker in charge has been ordered back into Federation space. The crew (that’s O’Brien, Tuvok, the EMH, among others) race against time and across the quadrant, to bring Picard the proof he needs. Going up against some strong opposition to find what they’re looking for.

There’s a stopover at DS9 to retreive information (for a price naturally) from Quark on the whereabouts of an extremely eldery Andorian, who can provide eyewitness testimony and evidence, needed to sway the Romulans.

There’s a clash between the Enterprise and (Sela’s or the Tomalak kind of leader’s) Romulan ships, in trying to get back to Quirinus. This is where Captain Geordi LaForge’s support on the Challenger comes into play. When that fails, Governor Worf arrives with Bird of Prey backup.

In the end, Picard is able to provide proof that the historical records about Archer’s actions at the heart of all this, have been forged. For the Andorian brought by the Enterprise-E… is Shran – doing all this to repay one final debt to his long dead ally. More than that to have the upper hand on him.

It’s all been a conspiracy, designed to ensure what’s left of the Star Empire would launch into one final war with the Federation. To keep a once proud empire from joining their Vulcan brothers, on their enemy’s terms.

And in return, the Prateor reveals some unreleased information he has on Ambassador Spock’s fate. A last recorded final transmission or message received from the Vulcan a lá “The Immunity Syndrome”.

From that and the ship's telemetry, the new mix n’ match Enterprise-E crew are somehow able to determine that Spock survived the supernova which destroyed Romulus, making it through to the other side of the Red Matter black hole created to stop it.

* Quirinus being the name of a new capital planet survivors fled to in the Romulan Star Empire… Probably not such a catchy name, but it continues a Roman mythical influence – it being the name of a deity Romulus was supposed to have become after his death.


Star Trek Legacy, because it effectively criss-crosses all the generations within the same plot. No time-travel. From a TOS character at the start, to TNG/VGR ones coming together, some unseen ENT to fight over and a dash of DS9. A lot taken from the sixth film, which is more my favourite of the TOS ones and the perfect example how to do a last hoorah and say goodbye.

While I’ve tried not to rely on anything that can’t be shown in the film itself.

I suggested it over in a thread where somebody brought up how they'd handle the last TNG movie. And I had some spare time to organise my thoughts into a story with a beginning, middle and end. Rather than a list of stuff I'd like to see, just to throw out there, in a random order. In-universe motivation to back up how I can pick and choose a few ex-Voyager crewmembers, throwing them on the Enterprise is perhaps sheer fan fiction. But hey, they're in Starfleet and have to obey when an Admiral comes knocking. I see maybe O'Brien being at a stage in life, Molly all grown up and Keiko off Earth for some reason - to go running off for an adventure. The Enterprise-E at one of DS9's docking pylons is something I've wanted to see, while they check in on Quark.

Been thinking about this again; my crew would be Admiral Picard, the dead Captain, O'Brien (engineer), Bashir (CMO), Ezi Dax (Counselor - I'd have Troi with Riker on the Titan); Kim (Security), Paris (helmsman), Seven of Nine (Science Officer)

That way (1) you have a more equal ds9/Voyager balance, and (2) despite it officially being non-Trek now Renegades brought back a load of people so I chose folks they haven't brought back.
 
IIRC, Alexander Siddig used to say at conventions that he would strongly approve of his and Ezri's participation in continuation movies.
 
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