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Did anyone watch the Oscars?

This and Sammy Davis Jr. in 1964 are the only examples I can think of.......I don't think there's a need to panic just yet.
 
Amidst all the blame game and finger-pointing, I couldn't help thinking the system is broken. They need to come up with a more foolproof way of handing out the winner envelopes to the presenters. Basically, you have two people from PWC on opposite ends of the stage, each carrying a briefcase of duplicate envelopes containing all the winners in all categories. How easy is it to manually pick the wrong envelope for the category??? I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner in the Oscars' 89-year history.
Two errors in 89 years? That's damned excellent. The system is fine as it is. The problem here was the envelope handler didn't pay attention and do his job. He was tweeting instead of focusing on the next category.
 
Which nominees were those?

I mean in terms of past patterns, didn't follow closely enough this year to know if this year fit the established pattern. The majority of best picture nominees tend to be period biopics and issue dramas which express their point through lots and lots of talking.
 
I love how the day after the Oscars they advertise dresses that are knock offs in all the big magazines peddle those wares.
 
I mean in terms of past patterns, didn't follow closely enough this year to know if this year fit the established pattern. The majority of best picture nominees tend to be period biopics and issue dramas which express their point through lots and lots of talking.
Talking is bad?
 
Two errors in 89 years? That's damned excellent. The system is fine as it is. The problem here was the envelope handler didn't pay attention and do his job. He was tweeting instead of focusing on the next category.


Yeah, I've since read that he was distracted by his tweeting. The ironic thing in all this is that in 2009, he discussed how unlikely it would be for an error to happen and the steps they'd take if it did happen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oscar-wrong-winner-marisa-tomei_us_58af326de4b0a8a9b780339f

“We would make sure that the correct person was known very quickly,” Cullinan said. “Whether that entails stopping the show, us walking onstage, us signaling to the stage manager — that’s really a game-time decision, if something like that were to happen. Again, it’s so unlikely.”
 
Talking is bad?

Not inherently, but when you're using it as your primary means of expression in a primarily visual medium, it's problematic. I don't know if you've heard the idiom "Show me, don't tell me". The type of movies that do well in Oscars tend to be very exposition driven, and tend to digest everything into simple understandable statements and spell out everything explicitly through lots and lots of dialog, instead of using the full visual component of the medium to make its point.

And more contemplative, visual films are usually snubbed.

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I had a coworker accountant who used to work for Pricewaterhouse earlier in his career. He's retired now. He recalls traveling down to SoCal to deliver the voting results and visiting the old PW office next to some theater where they historically held previous Academy Awards. That must've been an exciting career for him.

Anyway, Ruiz and Cullinan were responsible for the blunder. It's surprising to me that they're still with the company, but "they won't be back at the Oscars." Geez, how comforting. :rolleyes:
 
Well, it's more him than her. In fact, I think she pretty much did everything she needed to do. Meanwhile, he was busily tweeting. Seeing as they memorize the winners, I can easily imagine him giving someone an inside scoop about the upcoming winners and distractedly giving Warren Beatty the wrong envelope as a result.

Maybe they need to ban phones backstage.
 
Apparently, both accountants are being faulted for not being pro-active enough in correcting the mistake. According to at least one account, they both seem to have frozen like deer in the headlights, uncertain what to do, leaving others to step up and straighten things out.

At least the producers moved fast enough to avoid the worst-case scenario: the broadcast ending before the correct winner could be announced. This was the last award of the evening after all; imagine if they had awarded the Oscar to LA LA LAND, made some closing remarks, and then started rolling the credits . ....
 
Ahh, I see. Yeah, in this case, it makes sense that she'd be held accountable as well. I imagine he started to feel guilty just as soon as he realized what he'd done (and all the more ironic given what he'd said in 2009). And good on the producers for moving quickly.

One way to look at it is that these two people have been at it for years. It might have been time to introduce some new people to it anyway. But it's unfortunate it had to happen this way.
 
For me, the entire incident was rather amusing. I'm glad that the correction was made several minutes after Faye Dunaway announced the wrong winner. But, I find it difficult to feel any outrage over the whole matter. Ryan Gosling's reaction was a good reflection of how I felt.

The whole thing was a mistake. The producers of "MOONLIGHT" got their awards in the end. And the whole incident will probably become one of those "memorable Oscar moments" that film historians will be talking or writing about for years to come. You know, like Billy Wilder tripping Leo McCarey after losing the Best Director Oscar back in 1944-45.
 
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