How do you feel about human augmentation?

[Gingerbread Demon]

Considering we can't even get everyone to switch to cashless payment systems, much less some doohickey embedded in your brain, I don't expect this will be A Thing anytime soon. Maybe 20 years out, or later, for mainstream adoption.

We're just now getting RFID-based credit cards out there as a commonplace technology.

I'm not so sure RFID in your credit cards is such a great idea. The banks, (well here) anyway seem unwilling to turn that feature off if you don't need it and if you have had your cards stolen like I did over christmas paywave let's feral scum have a jolly time with your money...

So no I'm not sold on that idea at least.

Paywave is one of the dumbest ideas ever.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

I am all for it, as long as long as the basic models make that "Dun-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh" sound effect when i am running or bending a iron bar.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I'm not so sure RFID in your credit cards is such a great idea. The banks, (well here) anyway seem unwilling to turn that feature off if you don't need it and if you have had your cards stolen like I did over christmas paywave let's feral scum have a jolly time with your money...

So no I'm not sold on that idea at least.

Paywave is one of the dumbest ideas ever.

I wish more stores took Apple Pay. Now that's a technology I can get behind. (And it doesn't work if your phone gets stolen, because it needs your fingerprint to operate)

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I wish more stores took Apple Pay. Now that's a technology I can get behind. (And it doesn't work if your phone gets stolen, because it needs your fingerprint to operate)

Are there ways to get around the fingerprint reader or bypass it? Resetting the phone and such?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ No. Apple Pay absolutely will not function without the fingerprint.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

^ No. Apple Pay absolutely will not function without the fingerprint.

Well that's a good thing.

 

[B.J.]

Meh. Not all phones have fingerprint readers, and most certainly aren't iPhones. I'd rather not have Apple in charge of something that financial institutions should be driving. It's ok for Apple, Google, etc. to offer solutions, but not to drive it.

 

[bbjeg]

And I'd never install and Apple brand brain implant/upgrade.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Meh. Not all phones have fingerprint readers, and most certainly aren't iPhones. I'd rather not have Apple in charge of something that financial institutions should be driving. It's ok for Apple, Google, etc. to offer solutions, but not to drive it.

Uh, they aren't?

I don't have an iPhone and don't use Apple Pay but all Apple did was implement EMV standards. They partnered with major credit card companies to get it rolled out. They didn't invent a standard out of whole cloth and then start asking others to comply with it, so it's hard to say how they are "driving" anything. Apple implemented standards that anyone could. The underlying technology is not proprietary (though Apple Pay itself obviously is).

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

And I'd never install and Apple brand brain implant/upgrade.

You'd have to jailbreak it first to make it useful

 

[Dryson]

As long as that augmentation didn't take over and download its own programming to erase the human soul and it replace it with a metallic soul then by all means...augment away.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Uh, they aren't?

I don't have an iPhone and don't use Apple Pay but all Apple did was implement EMV standards. They partnered with major credit card companies to get it rolled out. They didn't invent a standard out of whole cloth and then start asking others to comply with it, so it's hard to say how they are "driving" anything. Apple implemented standards that anyone could. The underlying technology is not proprietary (though Apple Pay itself obviously is).

But given Apple's track record if another company were to introduce fingerprint reading in their phone you bet Apple would sue the hell out of them.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

But given Apple's track record if another company were to introduce fingerprint reading in their phone you bet Apple would sue the hell out of them.

Yeah, no.

 

[PurpleBuddha]

But given Apple's track record if another company were to introduce fingerprint reading in their phone you bet Apple would sue the hell out of them.

Tons of non-Apple phones have finger print readers:

http://webcusp.com/list-of-all-fingerprint-scanner-enabled-smartphones/

Also Apple was not the first to get this. Motorola was first for smartphones in 2011. Apple started putting them on their phones in 2013.

 

[bbjeg]

But if you cut off their finger... You want a finger? I can get you a finger, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me. Hell, I can get you a finger by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. Amateurs...

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Cutting off a finger wouldn't help. The finger has to be attached to a living human for the sensor to work - otherwise the finger would be cold, there'd be no blood flow, etc.

 

[B.J.]

Not so sure about that. Adam Savage defeated one of those on Mythbusters with just a photocopied fingerprint that he licked.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Was it an Apple model?

Even so, I believe Adam had to clean up the print digitally before he could use it. So your average iPhone thief wouldn't be able to hack it.

 

[bbjeg]

Cutting off a finger wouldn't help. The finger has to be attached to a living human for the sensor to work - otherwise the finger would be cold, there'd be no blood flow, etc.

It was just a Big Lebowski reference.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

OK I didn't know that other phones had them too. Well there you go you learn stuff.