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The CW renews: The Flash, Arrow, Supergirl, Legends, Supernatural

Legends will have 17 episodes this season.



Except Barry did the Flashpoint, so they have to reshoot everything to show how things have slightly changed because of it ;)
That would actually be kinda awesome though terribly confusing for people who never watched The Flash.
Unless the new intro to the show was:
"My name us Oliver Queen. For 5 years I was trapped on a hellish island, except when I was not trapped there for 3 of those years.
When I returned I did a lot if stuff to save my city.
But then my friend Barry traveled back in time and slightly changed what I did.
So now I have to be someone else... again. I am the vigi... the hoo... the Arrow... screw it, I am the Green Arrow."
 
I was half-hoping that Supernatural would get cancelled. The show's plummeted in quality, but I'm way too deep in to quit the show now. I'm in until the bitter end.
 
"Also, Sara Lance looks different from when the boat went down the first time."
And now we know who to blame!!!
"BARRYYYYYYY!"

Edit: now that I think about this. There might be a story there where Sara meets Arrow Pilot Sara in a pre-Gambit Queen timeline where Flashpoint didn't change her conception. :devil:
 
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I was half-hoping that Supernatural would get cancelled. The show's plummeted in quality, but I'm way too deep in to quit the show now. I'm in until the bitter end.

I hoped it would get cancelled last year. They were so close to a happy ending. Just don't have Sam get kidnapped, and ressurect John with Mary. Reward from God, Lucifer is dealt with, god and his sister leave, the happy family restored, and protection of the world left on Dean's shoulders. Thats a good series finale.

I, too, am on board until the end, and if the narrative hadn't so wrapped up perfectly last year, down to Pilot episode callbacks, I wouldn't have wanted it to be cancelled...

I would have cancelled it last year and replaced it with Constantine in the Arrowverse, since they are similar shows.
 
TV shows that reach season 3 basically are guaranteed a season 4 because of syndication. Nice work, Supergirl!
 
The Arrowverse shows can cheat syndication by selling (almost) the entire Arrowverse as one syndicatable bundle.
 
TV shows that reach season 3 basically are guaranteed a season 4 because of syndication.

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Well, Supernatural is one step closer to their 300 episode goal. After next season, they just need a 14th Season of 12 or 13 episodes to complete that milestone.
And to think this show was fighting to stay on air in its first two or three seasons.
 

Funny. Though, technically, Star Trek was one of the first shows to prove the syndication model as profitable, so the effect (if true) would only show up in more recent television eras.

Also, for clarity, the industry belief is that 100 episodes (or, more recently, 88 episodes, which may or may not align with 4 seasons) is the norm for making a show viable for syndication. Of course, the importance of that number mostly relates to the owning studio, which may or may not be the same company as the network airing the show. [Note: the owning studio may decrease its pricing in order to reach 100 episodes if it is not the same company as the airing network.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_episodes
 
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This desperation for syndication lamentation is what we say when talking about shit show, like Enterprise, running out of steam, so that it can't quite really make it all the up to the top of the hill on it's own, and needs a push.

Supergirl has to be doing fine, since they stopped paying the licensing fee (3 million per episode) to Warner Brothers,and moved to a boutique station where they need just a tenth of the ratings it used to need, to be called a success.
 
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Wasn't the $3 million licensing fee that CBS had to pay to air each episode of Supergirl a huge reason for why CBS didn't want a second season?

I don't think CW has to pay that.
 
Wasn't the $3 million licensing fee that CBS had to pay to air each episode of Supergirl a huge reason for why CBS didn't want a second season?

I don't think CW has to pay that.
That and the cost of actually shooting the series in the Hollywood/L.A. area.
 
Wasn't the $3 million licensing fee that CBS had to pay to air each episode of Supergirl a huge reason for why CBS didn't want a second season?

Not so much "didn't want" as "couldn't afford." The reason the renewal/move announcement was delayed so long was because CBS did give serious consideration to renewing the show, looking into options like budget cuts or a move to Vancouver, but it was ultimately decided by all the parties involved that it would be better served on The CW (which CBS half-owns) than on CBS itself.
 
Not so much "didn't want" as "couldn't afford." The reason the renewal/move announcement was delayed so long was because CBS did give serious consideration to renewing the show, looking into options like budget cuts or a move to Vancouver, but it was ultimately decided by all the parties involved that it would be better served on The CW (which CBS half-owns) than on CBS itself.

From a budgetary standpoint I haven't noticed a drop in quality. Heck it seemed like the move to Vancouver might have helped the show (even though I really hope we see Cat again before the season is out).
 
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From a budgetary standpoint I haven't noticed a drop in quality. Heck it seemed like the move to Vancouver might have helped the show (even though I really we we see Cat again before the season is out).

Yes -- apparently the network license fee and the costs of filming in Los Angeles were so high that the savings from the move more than offset the budget cut for season 2, so the show actually has more money to spend on what actually gets on the screen, like sets, props, stunts, effects, etc.

I do feel some things have been lost, though. No Cat, no Max Lord, no Lucy or Sam Lane, no Noonan's. Cat was given a reason for leaving, but Max and Lucy both disappeared without explanation, along with DEO Agent Vasquez (although I've seen that she's returning in at least one episode later this season).

And shooting in LA gave the first season a distinct look from the Arrowverse shows, but now it looks just like every other Vancouver show. The National City helipad where Superman and Supergirl saved Lena Luthor had exactly the same skyline behind it as the Central City rooftop where the assembled heroes fought the Dominators at the climax of their invasion. And President Marsdin signed the Alien Amnesty Act in front of the same geodesic dome that served as the Time Masters' Oculus in Legends of Tomorrow. And let's not get into all the different places the Vancouver Central Library has shown up. (It's literally across the street from that aforementioned rooftop/helipad, by the way, and just a few blocks from the stadium used as the exterior of STAR Labs.) I'd been hoping they'd use digital skyline replacement (like they used for the CatCo rooftop scene in the pilot where Kara revealed her secret to Winn) to give the Vancouver locations they used more of an LA/National City look, but they haven't.
 
From a budgetary standpoint I haven't noticed a drop in quality. Heck it seemed like the move to Vancouver might have helped the show (even though I really we we see Cat again before the season is out).

Calisita didn't want to move to Canada, it really wasn't a money thing with her.

The CW is 1/2 owned by CBS and half owned by Warner Brothers, who owns DC comics. License fees are only for when "outsiders" want to use DC's intellectual property. There is no license fee for the CW to use Supergirl. Sorry, I should have said that more clearly earlier.

Sorry.
 
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I do feel some things have been lost, though. No Cat, no Max Lord, no Lucy or Sam Lane, no Noonan's. Cat was given a reason for leaving, but Max and Lucy both disappeared without explanation, along with DEO Agent Vasquez (although I've seen that she's returning in at least one episode later this season).

I'm still irrationally bothered that Lucy and Sam Lane disappeared without a trace.
 
I'm still irrationally bothered that Lucy and Sam Lane disappeared without a trace.

General Lane's absence doesn't bother me. He has responsibilities elsewhere, and now that his mistrust of Supergirl and J'onn has subsided, he's less inclined to try to horn in on DEO operations. The apparent change in the DEO's mandate following the Amnesty Act may be a factor too.

Lucy's absence bothers me a lot, not just because it's unexplained, but because she's really, really gorgeous and I miss seeing her. True, we have Katie McGrath and Sharon Leal now, but I still miss Jenna Dewan Tatum. And looks aside, I liked the relationship between Kara and Lucy and I wanted to see how it would develop with Lucy being in Supergirl's confidence.
 
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