Line counts and screen time are not a reflection of character development.
"Stars" of the show
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I say it with love.
Which episodes would you count as ensembles? I would count Workforce and the killing game as the two parter without a main focus each.
I know that even in ensemble stories, there is often a main character to be found. For instance, some might say Tom Paris is the main character of "Caretaker", but I only counted character focus episodes. Here's a few I would consider ensembles:
Caretaker
Eye of the Needle
The 37's
Twisted
Death Wish
Basics
In "Death Wish", the focus character is Q(Quinn), but the main characters act as an ensemble, however in "Jetrel", the focus character is Neelix.
So that's my reasoning..
Caretaker
Eye of the Needle
The 37's
Twisted
Death Wish
Basics
In "Death Wish", the focus character is Q(Quinn), but the main characters act as an ensemble, however in "Jetrel", the focus character is Neelix.
So that's my reasoning..
Distant origin-would you say that's centred on the guest star or Chakotay?
The Voth get quite a bit development in that one episode. I think it's a great Chakotay episode too. I like better than the one where Nog dresses up as a Kazon and kidnaps Chakotay.
let me guess..........I still like seasons 1-3 better because all the characters had lot of screen time and there was a great interaction between them.
And then of course is one more thing...............
Seska!
...I knew it
Nog? Your not being sarcastic?
"Initiations" I believe it's called. Yeah, I like the Voth episode much more, although Chakotay is pretty good in both.
My favorite villains are Seska and Krashyyk. Ambitious, vicious and dangerous the one as the other one but hat why they were so interesting and we loved to hate them. Plus, their performers were excellent! 
Kashyk of the Devore Imperium! Yay!
Beltran wasn't happy and neither was Wang. Janeway still got enough attention that I don't think Mulgrew had reason to complain. Russ I'm not sure he played the best Vulcan since Lenard if he had complaints I don't no how public he was about it. Dawson and McNeil hmm they had their own plotline and got in directing time so I'm not sure what they felt.
All actors complained at one time or another about weaknesses of scenarios but Beltran and Wang have been the most vocal in their criticism of Voyager. Worst, they directly/publicly and sometimes quite violently attacked - the excecutive producers who were Berman & Braga from S4 :
- Wang going as far as considering Berman as a racist because this latter refused to confide him the direction of some episodes while others actors from different series were offered the direction of several episodes.
- Beltran considered that Berman & especially Braga, were personally responsible of the retrogadation of his character (Chakotay) to the beneift of Seven/Ryan, the newcomer, and the EMH/Picardo.... what wasn't entirely false, I grant you that. But if both had adopted a more responsible and profesional behaviour, they would have been respected and listened by producers.
About the contracts, I learnt that, at the beginning of the adventure, all actors have signed a first contract of 3 years. Towards the end of the season 3, they all have been renewed for 2 years, except Jennifer Lien (because they needed to make room for Jeri Ryan and her character of Seven of Nine). Then a second contract of 2 years to end the series were offered, except for Philips who has asked to be freed in the beginning of S7, what producers accepted easily because well, they didn't know anymore what to do with Neelix.
So, when Beltran and Wang say that they felt trapped by their contracts, I don't think that they are totally honest. They were offered twice times, the opportunity of leaving the adventure to dedicate themselves to their supposed career but each time, they chose to stay, not only because of their contractual obligations, which forbade them to accept other commitments during the 10 months of shooting, but especially for the regular financial earnings the job brought. And as they were relegated in the background for more of the half of the season, both had more spare time to spend for their hobbies. So, at the end, it was a win win situation for them : money + spare time.
I don't say that all their all their criticisms were excessive. Some of them were fair (the balance of the first 3 seasons was sacrificed after the arrival of Seven on board and the evolution of the EMH but others, like Dawson or Philips were "victims" of this situation too. but we didn't hear them whining publicly. Same for Mulgrew about the sexualization of the series. She remained very professional though she made sure the producers know her dissatisfaction in the face of this evolution -> Berman & Braga continued to trust her and her character remained very present from s4 to the end, .while offering to the actress from s6, a little more time for her.
Well said. I have no issue with them being unhappy with things that were going on behind the scenes. Everybody has things about their jobs that they don't like. But I always thought it was horrible that people would publicly bash the show, the producers, even their fellow actors, and in some cases even their fans.
Is it true Beltran supposedly holds the fans in low regard? Cuz if he does then why bother going to the conventions?
Well, because it's quite (financially) rewarding!
Indded, depending on the importance of the actor/actress AND of his/her popularity among fans, it will cost you about $35 to $95 (Shatner, Nichols) to have an autograph. And for a picture where you pose with your favorite star, it will cost you about $50 to $80. And, I guess that, in 2016, for the 50th anniversary, prices increased.
-> for ex, in 2014: to have an autograph of Robert Beltran, it costed you $40-$45 and for a picture with him, $50.
In the end, it is an interesting business for actors/actresses!
I can understand if they do.
Honestly, I'm surprised that it don't happen more often.
OK, if I was hired as an actor of a certain show, I might keep quiet in public about certain things, at least for a while and if it didn't became public in some other way.
But I would definitely tell certain producers what I was thinking about how they handled my character and/or me personally. The same with possible obnoxious fellow actors.
And if they fired me for no obvious reason, I would definitely tell the world about what I think of that action!
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