Star Wars Rebels Season Three (spoilers)

[Reverend]

So what's the origin of the idea that Corellia is Han Solo's homeworld?

I think it came from a bunch of material that Lucas wrote up and sent to the marketing people. IIRC it's also where the idea that Chewbacca was over a century old came from. Probably the first piece of merchandise that included that information was this movie theatre program from 1977. I know what it actually says if the Falcon is a "Corellian Pirate Starship" but I suspect that may have been misread by some as Han being a "Corellian Pirate". That or someone made a simple leap of logic: "he's a pirate with a corellian pirate ship, so he must be Corellian, right?"

If I had to guess I say the first time fans were introduced to the concept would likely have been in the Marvel comics, which always played a bit fast and loose with the lore.

For the record, Lucas considered having a very young Han show up in RotS as some orphan being raised by the Wookiees, so it's possible he never considered Solo as Corellian at all.

Well we know that the Empire didn't find out about Kenobi, otherwise Vader would have gone to Tatooine personally to deal with his old master.

Sure, but the question now is "what did it take to stop that from happening and at what cost?"

 

[Ithekro]

Well Tatooine is kind on nowhere in the Empire. Vader doesn't want to go there if he can help it. And Maul is against the Empire presently, and the Sith Lords specifically. Also Kenobi is his personal revenge.

 

[Reverend]

I think the concern will be less that Maul will send a transmission to the Empire and more that his activities will cause a disturbance in the force that could potentially draw the attention of Sidious and/or Vader. At least, I think that would be Bail and Obi Wan's worry that it may indirectly endanger Luke by leading the Sith to them and possibly by extension, Leia as well. If they find out who Leia really is that puts Bail squarely in their crosshairs which could kill the rebellion before it's had a chance to form.

There's a lot of domino that could be toppled by Maul's little revenge trip.

 

[Tuskin38]

According to Rebels Recon, there will be connections to Rogue One in the second half of the season.

 

[Ithekro]

I don't know why, but the censored conversation about later in the season was funny even though I'd rather have more information. But I figure the connections with Rogue One would have to do with their attack on Lothal since Phoenix Group will probably get aid from Dodanna's group (which might be operating out of Yavin or even Dantooine at this point) and thus bring in the X-wings, the captured Y-wings, and perhaps the U-wings if their is a ground attack. Also probably Wedge again.

Mind you I think Thrawn is attempting to set up a trap for the Rebel fleet, and we have yet to see it (but will in Rogue One). And we know the Rebels don't have a major victory until Rogue One, so while they might blow up the factory, I would think the cost would be rather high (given Thrawn is around), and perhaps point out the fact that the Rebel cells need to be united if they have any chance of defeating the Empire. Call for the birth of the Rebel Alliance by the end of the season.

 

[KennyB]

Second half kicks off with a 2 parter about Geonosis I believe. Soooooooo if you've read Catalyst and follow the basic timeline......there should be a lot going on.

 

[Marc]

I think it came from a bunch of material that Lucas wrote up and sent to the marketing people. IIRC it's also where the idea that Chewbacca was over a century old came from. Probably the first piece of merchandise that included that information was this movie theatre program from 1977. I know what it actually says if the Falcon is a "Corellian Pirate Starship" but I suspect that may have been misread by some as Han being a "Corellian Pirate". That or someone made a simple leap of logic: "he's a pirate with a corellian pirate ship, so he must be Corellian, right?"

Iirc the Star Wars Story book (yes the one everyone's seen the pic of Luke and Biggs on Tatooine in) described him as a 200 years old and the reference to Solo being Corellian was used in the NPR radio adaption (which I guess probably got it from Lucas's notes). When Kenobi is in the Cantina looking for a ship to travel to Alderaan on, he looks for a Corellian vessel because they are among the best but is gets the response 'we're not among the best, we are the best".

 

[The Wormhole]

I don't think Yoda really had a prior relationship to Chewbacca specifically, just that he had good relations with the Wookiees in general.

Well, Yoda does say "Farewell, Chewbacca. Miss you most, I will, my good friend." Which implies they had some sort of prior relationship. Or did things just get really friendly on that piggy-back ride?

Well we know that the Empire didn't find out about Kenobi, otherwise Vader would have gone to Tatooine personally to deal with his old master.

The Empire apparently never considered the possibility that he'd live for the next twenty years after Order 66. After all, when Vader went to Tarkin claiming he could sense Obi-Wan's presence on the Death Star, Tarkin immediately dismissed it claiming Obi-Wan had to have been dead by now.

 

[Reverend]

Well, Yoda does say "Farewell, Chewbacca. Miss you most, I will, my good friend." Which implies they had some sort of prior relationship. Or did things just get really friendly on that piggy-back ride?

That's not what he says. He just says "Goodbye Tarfful, Goodbye Chewbacca. Miss you I will." and it's aimed at both of them, not just Chewie.

 

[The Wormhole]

Well, shit. Talk about a cheating memory.

 

[Ithekro]

Second half kicks off with a 2 parter about Geonosis I believe. Soooooooo if you've read Catalyst and follow the basic timeline......there should be a lot going on.

It would have to be a follow up from their mission from last year, as the Rebels already went to Geonosis and found it dead with several seemingly abandoned orbital construction platforms (though much of the episode was spent on Zeb and Agent Kallus gaining respect for each other and getting Kallus to question the Empire's ways).

 

[tharpdevenport]

This new episode was better than the last few, but I can't help but feel it was wasted. Didn't we spend a whole episode to get the same answers Ezra and Maul got when they merged the holocrons?

I had to go back and check:

"Holocrons of Fate"

Maulo: "I see him!"
Ezra: "Twin suns..."

Maul: "He lives." (repeated again seconds later, with more force as Maul speeds away from the station)

And in "Visions and Voices" we get the same thing, only this time it's reversed, with Maul saying "Twin suns" (and also saying a desert planet) and Ezra saying "he's alive".


Basically we spent/wasted a whole episode so that Maul and Ezra could say the same thing. The only added one is the name Ezra utters. It's fairly obvious to any SW fan, but just incase of spoilers, I won't say it.

 

[Ithekro]

Well that, pick up an artifact of power, and close out an old story arc from the Clone Wars.

One wonders though, are there other settlements on Dathomir in the Age of the Empire.

 

[Reverend]

Basically we spent/wasted a whole episode so that Maul and Ezra could say the same thing. The only added one is the name Ezra utters. It's fairly obvious to any SW fan, but just incase of spoilers, I won't say it.

That's assuming plot is the only thing being advanced. We got to see a little more of Maul's motivations, Ezra's (seemingly) last temptation to the dark side and foreshadowed...something...down the line for Sabine.

One wonders though, are there other settlements on Dathomir in the Age of the Empire.

IIRC in the 'Last Son of Dathomir' comic Maul brings the Nightbrothers into his cabal as muscle. We still have yet to see the resolution to that arc in the 'Siege of Mandalore' but it's a safe bet Maul was as he said, the only survivor.

As to other settlements on Dathomir; it's possible I suppose but the impression I'm left with is that judging from the ruins, the Night Sisters were already the last of a dying culture.

 

[Samurai8472]

Sabine is going to get training from Kanan, according to an interview with Freddie Prinze on Coffee with Kenobi.

http://www.coffeewithkenobi.com/cof...season-three-featuring-freddie-prinze-jr-226/

 

[Ithekro]

Blade handling from a blind man to a weapon's expert that is no Jedi. Well Mandalorians were able to hold their own against most Jedi, so Sabine should be fine.

EDIT:

I reminded myself that Geonosis is practically next to Tatooine in Galactic terms.

 

[Reverend]

I've been sort of looking forward to this development for a while now.
We've seen the Sith & Jedi Master/Apprentice relationship several times now but we've yet to see the Jedi/Disciple relationship. One of the biggest things that bugged be about the EU was it's glossing over of the force as a religion or philosophy for people that couldn't necessarily use it. We saw both Ackbar & Dodanna invoke it and now with the new material we're getting characters like Chirrut Îmwe and Lor San Tekka.

From a practical standpoint though, he can certainly teach her how to use a blade, but without force sensitivity she won't have a chance against someone who does. Might be able to handle an Inquisitor though. Aside from the Grand Inquisitor those guys aren't massively well trained (by design.)

Remember that when facing Jedi, both Jango Fett and Pre Vizla had to resort to *all* the Mandalorian toys just to stay alive and both of them lost their heads in the end...literally. Indeed, Jango only just barely escaped his confrontation with Obi Wan and he was intent on bringing him in alive. Had he been willing to kill him, that fight would have been much shorter.

I don't know why exactly, but Sabine always struck me as the perfect character to go in this direction. Plus, it's just a cool idea to think that starting right here, young Mandalorians are going to be indoctrinated and trained in the ways of the Jedi. Perhaps finally escaping the legacy of their culture's marauding past and put their martial skills and traditions to more constructive uses.

Imagine for a second a new Jedi order working side-by-side with Mandalorian super-commandos, not as Generals and soldiers but as peacekeepers. The added numbers alone would certainly help compensate for how few Jedi Luke will have when he & Rey start over again and probably remain on the low side for several generations to come.

I reminded myself that Geonosis is practically next to Tatooine in Galactic terms.

Very close even on a local cluster scale; less than a parsec IIRC and that's about three and a quarter light years, which is closer than we are to Proxima Centauri by about a full light year.

So yeah, I can see there being some spill over from Maul's trip to Tatooine to them finding something important on Geonosis. I'm guessing Kallus tells them something before Thrawn has him executed.

 

[Reverend]

Apologies for the double post but I just came across a fun and interesting bit of trivia: the voices of the two Nightsister "spirits" that possessed Kanan and Sabine were done by Meredith Salenger and Anna Graves respectively. So yes, that means Sabine was speaking in the voice of Duchess Satine and Kanan in the voice of Barris Offee.

While it's obviously not a coincidence that those particular voice actors get paired up, I'd hesitate to read more meaning into it besides the showrunners winking at the audience. That said, if one were to infer some deeper meaning, Sabine did end the episode holding a symbol of Mandalorian authority. Not sure what it would mean for Kanan though. Could he the one more at risk of the dark side after all? He does still have a lot of demons and an undefined but definite attachment to Hera, so there's potential there.

 

[Mach5]

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/12/saw-gerrera-coming-to-star-wars-rebels/

 

[Ithekro]

Might add to the list of injures he has by the time we see him in Rogue One. We also still need to see the formation of the Rebel Alliance.