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^^ Hah! That's another one that's very evocative of the changing times for me. Those opening bars are like a time machine. :D

Digging deep payed off.
Indeed. Digging deep at that time yields a lot of gems and foreshadowing of what's to come.

This would be the beginning of the Mickey Thomas era that eventually gave us just "Starship".
Yeah, and it's the same-- entertaining and catchy, but not much else.

In this case, though, "his best" sets a pretty high bar.
Indeed, one of the highest, so it just makes me want to go listen to something else.

For the record, I have a big, fat soft spot for Off the Wall...my sister had the album.
It's not bad, just kind of generic-- it fits in more with the tired feeling that Top 40 had than with the energized feeling that was coming with the infusion of New Wave. But, for me, the strongest song on that album was "She's Out Of My Life." That's the prime example of how much feeling he could really put into a song.

Funny you should describe a number from '79 that way, as it affirms a perception of my own. Usually in popular culture, the first year or so of a new decade comes to resemble the previous decade more than the decade that it begins. In music, at least, I feel that the reverse is true for the turn of the '80s...late '79 feels like the '80s getting off to an early start. Disco being on the wane no doubt contributed a great deal to that.
Hah, I did jump the gun a little. You're right about the last year of the decade thing, and for me it was especially true at that point. I graduated in 1979 and that represented a huge sea change in my life-- not only did I go straight from school to working full time (and therefore having money), but I also went from being at home and hanging around town, to getting out in the world, traveling around with friends and getting exposed to quite a lot of new and strange things. Greenwich Village was a long way from Weymouth, MA. So 1979 is a major dividing line in my timestream.
 
^^ Hah! That's another one that's very evocative of the changing times for me. Those opening bars are like a time machine. :D
Changing times? That's Spring of '82...decades-wise, I'd say we were firmly in the '80s by then...video arcades...Rubik's Cubes...MTV....

But, for me, the strongest song on that album was "She's Out Of My Life." That's the prime example of how much feeling he could really put into a song.
Just when I think I know what you hate, you surprise me.... :p

Alas, we may not be getting to "She's Out of My Life," depending on what my review companions want to do once TIH is dumped from Netflix....
 
How about you, @TREK_GOD_1 ...does this affect your participation?

You can try Hulu, where they have seasons 1-3 available, plus one of the reunion movies.

Just schlepping around, and with no specific surname alias that I caught.

Yep, he was just "David" in this episode.

A good lingering close-call tease.

Someone up there must love David, because that was close to being the biggest "WHA--THE HELL?? AHA!" moment up to this point in the series.

About time! Is that the first time we've heard him roll that out?

It may be about time, but it does not help character or story. As mentioned yesterday, McGee's "Medium height, medium build...brown hair...brown eyes...." does not move him one step closer to John Doe, because he's never seen the man's face--the biggest missing piece of all--which means that general description fits millions of men in America. Again, up to this point, his John Doe searches are always after the fact--and without a clue about Banner's type of facial structure, John Doe has the advantage of fading into the crowd.

Later this season, he will run into Banner in "Equinox," but if memory serves, the lead was Hulk-based, instead of having specific information about John Doe (enough to track him independent of the creature).

With power like that, he should be...I dunno, wrecking a town or something.

...then he would become such a threat that he a comic book Hulk reaction would follow...

Hmmm...in the moment when I was watching it, I hadn't considered adding them to that list. Even though they had the Hulk completely lassoed, they seemed to have a little more plausible deniability than many of the others. They didn't have their eyes on him, and when the horses stopped, they assumed they'd caught onto something else.

...or, as the henchmen blurted out to David, his "green" friend was written off as a rodeo attraction.

Now that's weird...IIRC, this is the second time that one of our Hulk guest stars was also on an episode of TGA that ran the same day on H&I.

It happens from time to time; for example, I remember Skip Homier guest starring on TOS, while his episode of The Outer Limits was running the same day on another channel.
 
You can try Hulu, where they have seasons 1-3 available, plus one of the reunion movies.
Finishing Season 3 at least wouldn't be much of a problem. I was attempting to sound out whether you had plans to continue reviewing the show in spite of the Netflix news. I'm not sure by what means you're watching the show.

Having had time to digest the news, I'm willing to attempt to binge the rest of the series by the end of the month and keep my rough notes for future discussion, if there will be others to play along with. To that end, I'm currently in the middle of watching "Behind the Wheel."

Someone up there must love David, because that was close to being the biggest "WHA--THE HELL?? AHA!" moment up to this point in the series.
"Behind the Wheel" also gave us a classic close call situation, with the John Doe angle in full play, but that's for next week's discussion.

It may be about time, but it does not help character or story. As mentioned yesterday, McGee's "Medium height, medium build...brown hair...brown eyes...." does not move him one step closer to John Doe, because he's never seen the man's face--the biggest missing piece of all--which means that general description fits millions of men in America. Again, up to this point, his John Doe searches are always after the fact--and without a clue about Banner's type of facial structure, John Doe has the advantage of fading into the crowd.
Well of course his rough description of John Doe isn't enough to help him peg down that John is David, but the fact that he's now looking for the man who changes into the Hulk, and not just the Hulk, does play into some stories going forward, as I recall.

...then he would become such a threat that he a comic book Hulk reaction would follow...
I don't think anybody got my "wrecking a town" reference...
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("...with the power of a....")
 
Having had time to digest the news, I'm willing to attempt to binge the rest of the series by the end of the month and keep my rough notes for future discussion, if there will be others to play along with.

I was thinking of doing the same.


Land of the Giants: "Brainwash": Yet another episode driven by the discovery of other lost Earth expeditions -- this time just equipment left behind by a dead expedition, equipment that Steve and Fitzhugh stumble upon by coincidence and that coincidentally was built by Mark's company so that he can fix it. But we get an early hint of the thread of the government security police trying to learn the Little People's secrets by any means, with Warren Stevens playing a prototype of Kevin Hagen's Inspector Kobick from later on.

If the giants' tech is 50 years behind Earth's at the time, that'd correspond to the early 1930s. But they have '60s-style automobiles, they have television (at least in "The Golden Cage"), and they've been seen to have some pretty futuristic sci-fi technology, like force fields, shrinking drugs, and the brainwashing foam seen here. It's pretty inconsistent. Also, the plot here doesn't make much sense, especially the contrived climax. Why is Steve so determined to destroy the equipment right away when it should take a long time for the giants to dig it out? Why not give Mark the 5 minutes he needs to contact Earth? Why does the scientist think that spraying his foam into the pipe won't damage the equipment? And Dan is unfortunately sidelined -- not only kept out of the rescue, but reduced to a passive observer in the gratuitous Steve-Mark conflict in the climax. Not one of his better showings.


The Time Tunnel
: "The Alamo": Well, this is even a weaker depiction of the Battle of the Alamo than the version Timeless did a few weeks ago. Naturally, it completely ignores that the "brave" defenders of the fort were slave-owners and slave traders fighting for their "right" to practice slavery. But that's only to be expected. There are some bigger howlers on top of that. Like the bit where the Mexican captain says that his wine is "courtesy of the American merchants" who fled the town ahead of the occupying Mexican forces. Texas was a rebellious province of the Mexican Empire at the time, so a Mexican officer would consider the territory's residents to be Mexicans, or at most Texians (as they were then known). They wouldn't become Americans until 9 years later. This revisionism makes the Mexicans seem like they were invading the US, making them more clear-cut villains. Which meshes with the very stereotyped portrayal of the sleazy Mexican scout who captures Tony. (Also, if Travis was a US colonel in this revisionist history, why didn't he recognize General Kirk's authority over him?)

There's also the historically inaccurate claim that Davy Crockett was killed before the day of the battle -- which is contradicted by the appearance of John Wayne's Davy Crockett in the 1960 The Alamo movie footage cut in later. But then, the appearance of the Alamo itself is completely different in the stock footage than in the rest of the episode.

Otherwise, a generally meh episode full of the usual cliches -- captures, fights, escapes, Doug & Tony's vain attempts to convince people they know the future, and the Tunnel's chronic bad aim at retrieving people from the past. Then there's the way Doug is hit on the head twice and is so concussed he can't even stand, prompting Tony to seek medical aid for him -- yet 15 minutes later, Doug is perfectly fine again.


Planet of the Apes: "The Liberator": This episode was apparently not shown in most of the US on first run, and I'm not sure if I've ever seen it. It's a pretty intense and serious episode about a human community that's made a hard bargain to provide captive slaves for the apes to spare their own people, and there's some interesting drama as our heroes debate with villagers who've made hard compromises and taken ruthless actions because they feel they have no other choice. And it even works in some classic PotA-style allegory about the horrors of warfare with WMDs. Interesting guest turn by Ben Andrews as Miro, who had a fairly rich characterization. Andrews sort of reminds me of a tougher Mark Hamill.

Also, I think this episode has had the smallest ape presence of any in the series so far. Aside from the few scenes with the gorilla troops in the first act, Galen was the only ape here.
 
I totally forgot about Wild Wild West, but I did get to watch TIH, which was an OK episode, not bad, but not really overly interesting either.
I was surprised we just started this one with David settled with a job and friends and everything. Did they do that a lot? Most of the ones I've seen have had him wandering into town and then finding trouble through a job or friend he made on the way. We didn't even find out how he ended up at the Rodeo or befriended Jack and Maggie.
I was surprised the thugs didn't figure out David was the Hulk, but I guess since they weren't paying attention when he changed they could have just assumed he got away.
The fake hooves trampling David and the fake bull the Hulk wrestled with cracked me up.
 
I was surprised we just started this one with David settled with a job and friends and everything. Did they do that a lot?
I haven't been keeping count, but it seems they did it that way more often than not. It seems less common when an episode actually starts with him on the road.
 
Finishing Season 3 at least wouldn't be much of a problem. I was attempting to sound out whether you had plans to continue reviewing the show in spite of the Netflix news. I'm not sure by what means you're watching the show.

Oh, I will continue reviewing. Depending on my work schedule, I will watch the ME-TV broadcast, or use Hulu. I located seasons 4 & 5 there, so that can be the full go-to option.

"Behind the Wheel" also gave us a classic close call situation, with the John Doe angle in full play, but that's for next week's discussion.

Ahh....


Well of course his rough description of John Doe isn't enough to help him peg down that John is David, but the fact that he's now looking for the man who changes into the Hulk, and not just the Hulk, does play into some stories going forward, as I recall.


I don't think anybody got my "wrecking a town" reference...
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Marvel Superheroes...for some reason, I did not think of that lyric!

...now if you read the next lines:

"With the power of a bull,
Ain’t no monster clown
Who is as lovable..."


Well, Tibby's henchmen did think the Hulk was one of the rodeo clowns....
 
Hmm, I don't have a Hulu subscription at the moment, and I don't expect to have the luxury to afford it anytime soon, so that's not an option for me. So a Netflix binge it is.
 
Just did my second episode for today, so I'm on track so far. Darn it, if I'd known I'd have to binge the rest of the series, I definitely would have gotten "Homecoming" in last weekend. I'll save the details for a couple weeks from now, but that episode earns its place in my memory after all these years...I was surprised at how effective it still is.

Ain’t no monster clown
:lol: I didn't even know that was the line...all the better!
 
Just did my second episode for today, so I'm on track so far. Darn it, if I'd known I'd have to binge the rest of the series, I definitely would have gotten "Homecoming" in last weekend. I'll save the details for a couple weeks from now, but that episode earns its place in my memory after all these years...I was surprised at how effective it still is.

That's up next for me.
 
^ May want to have a little tissue handy.

Anyone who's following the thread but not watching every episode...definitely catch "Homecoming" two Saturdays from now. It's not your run-of-the-mill episode.
 
Changing times? That's Spring of '82...decades-wise, I'd say we were firmly in the '80s by then...video arcades...Rubik's Cubes...MTV....
Well, that era. I guess in retrospect it feels like part of the changing times-- the time compression of the aging process. :rommie:

Just when I think I know what you hate, you surprise me.... :p
I suppose that's understandable, given the small sample size and the particular time period we've been examining....
 
"Jake"--

Fred Ward (Marvin) As noted for the review of "The Disciple," (S2, E17) for audiences not caring about his very notable, serious work, Ward is also remembered for this short list--
  • Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins (MGM, 1985)
  • Timerider: The Adventure of Lyle Swann (Jensen Farley Pictures, 1982) - with L.Q. Jones
  • UFOria (Universal / Paramount, 1985)
  • The Hitchhiker (HBO,1987) - "Dead Heat"
  • Tremors (Universal, 1990)
  • Tremors II (Universal, 1996)
Don't forget: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast_a_Deadly_Spell

"My Favorite Magician"--

The creature's expanding body breaks the glass; as the Hulk growls at the startled audience,

That's twice at least that Hulk was on stage.

Of course, Bixby's first experience with magic was on his own series The Magician (NBC, 1973-74)--
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I remember a scene where his character was at the foot of a flight of stairs. One of the heavies began to fire a machine gun as
Bixby opens an umbrella--which we see riddled with holes only with no one behind it now.

Run off--easy--but it impressed me as a youngster all the same.
 
Looks like Me will be playing the Green Hornet two-parter on Batman tomorrow night, in memory of Van Williams (who passed away this week, for those who didn't know).

*******

This week, on The Incredible Hulk:

"Behind the Wheel"
Originally aired November 9, 1979
David gets a job driving a cab for a company whose owner is on the verge of losing the business to a greedy loan shark.


Events in the news the week the episode aired:
November 4 – Iran hostage crisis begins: 3,000 Iranian radicals, mostly students, invade the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and take 90 hostages (53 of whom are American). They demand that the United States send the former Shah of Iran back to stand trial.
November 5 – The radio news program Morning Edition premieres on National Public Radio in the United States.
November 6 – At Montevideo, Uruguay, the International Olympic Committee adopts a resolution, whereby Taiwan Olympic and sports teams will participate with the name Chinese Taipei in future Olympic Games and international sports tournaments and championships.
November 7 – U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy announces that he will challenge President Jimmy Carter for the 1980 Democratic presidential nomination.
November 9
  • The Carl Bridgewater murder trial ends in England with all 4 men found guilty. James Robinson, 45, and 25-year-old Vincent Hickey are sentenced to life imprisonment with a recommended 25-year minimum for murder. 18-year-old Michael Hickey is also found guilty of murder and sentenced to indefinite detention. Patrick Molloy, 53, is found guilty on a lesser charge of manslaughter and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
  • Nuclear false alarm: the NORAD computers and the Alternate National Military Command Center in Fort Ritchie, Maryland, detect an apparent massive Soviet nuclear strike. After reviewing the raw data from satellites and checking the early-warning radars, the alert is cancelled.
November 10 – 1979 Mississauga train derailment: A 106-car Canadian Pacific freight train carrying explosive and poisonous chemicals from Windsor, Ontario, Canada derails in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada just west of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, causing a massive explosion and the largest peacetime evacuation in Canadian history and one of the largest in North American history.


New on the U.S. charts that week:

"Video Killed the Radio Star," The Buggles
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(#40 US; #1 UK; "the first music video shown on MTV in the United States at 12:01am on 1 August 1981")

"Rapper's Delight," The Sugarhill Gang
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(#36 US; #14 Dance; #4 R&B; #3 UK; #248 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time; "While it was not the first single to feature rapping, it is generally considered to be the song that introduced hip hop music to audiences in the United States and around the world."--And that certainly included Your's Truly and his big sister, who owned the 12" single.)

"Deja Vu," Dionne Warwick
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(#15 US; #1 AC; #25 R&B)

"Head Games," Foreigner
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(#14 US)

And as we've got a bit of room for their previous single...ANOTHER SUMMER OF '79 FLASHBACK!!!

"Dirty White Boy," Foreigner
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(Sept. 8; #12 US)
 
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Looks like Me will be playing the Green Hornet two-parter on Batman tomorrow night, in memory of Van Williams (who passed away this week, for those who didn't know).
Nice. I'll try to catch that.

"Video Killed the Radio Star," The Buggles
Ah, I absolutely love that song and video. As a huge fan of OTR, it was quite bittersweet for me, but most people I knew didn't get it.

"Rapper's Delight," The Sugarhill Gang
I'm listening now and it's not triggering any recognition whatsoever.

"Deja Vu," Dionne Warwick
Sigh. Another great talent reduced to late 70s elevator music.

"Head Games," Foreigner
"Dirty White Boy," Foreigner
Eh. I was never a big Foreigner fan. I think "Blue Morning" was the only one I liked a lot.
 
I'm listening now and it's not triggering any recognition whatsoever.
Surely you at least recognize the sampling of Chic's "Good Times." :p

Tune in next week when one of the biggest superstars of the '80s and beyond makes his relatively obscure and forgotten Top 20 debut.
 
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Starting next month MeTV will be adding the original Kolchak: The Night Stalker to their lineup. It will be on Sundays at 9pm, so it won't be part of SuperScifi Saturday Night, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
I've been wanting to see this one for a while now, but Sundays are already a loaded TV night for me, so I don't think I'll be watching on Me much. It is on Netflix though, so I might watch some that way eventually.
 
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