Yeah, I could see it maybe being used in a threatening "get the hell off my Earth or else..." way, but not actually used to kill.
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Yeah, I could see it maybe being used in a threatening "get the hell off my Earth or else..." way, but not actually used to kill.
Sure, that's easy enough to deduce, but it was an odd omission from the expository dialogue earlier. I mean, the characters were all going "Oh, so that's why it kills all aliens except Kryptonians," but nobody seemed to be thinking "Wait a minute, humans would be aliens from Zor-El's point of view, so what's the explanation for that?" The problem was that the characters just seemed to take it for granted that humans were excluded from the category of "alien," even though a Kryptonian would not see it that way.
Which is an idea that has a basis in reality, the concept of tailoring diseases or medicines to target specific DNA sequences. Although this was the reverse, a disease that only spared specific species.
Which, by the way, is also clear from the episode titles. This episode was "Medusa," while the other three parts are all titled "Invasion!"
Yup. The thing to keep in mind about a crossover is that its individual parts still need to serve their respective series and their ongoing arcs first and foremost. So the Flash installment is going to be mostly about Team Flash, the Arrow installment is going to be mostly about Oliver and his team, etc. It's easier to interlace those three casts within that parameter because they're already so closely linked -- Barry debuted on Arrow, characters from the two shows have crossed over repeatedly, most of the Legends are characters who originated on the other two shows, and Oliver has appeared on LoT a couple of times while Barry's future self has been a recurring plot point this season. But the only Earth-1 character who's been on Supergirl before is Barry, so having "Medusa" be more heavily tied into the crossover would've been more of a distraction from the show's own continuity than it is for the other three shows. That's why this structure makes sense narratively and logistically, regardless of what the advertising implied.
They did the thing where they looked over to where he'd been a moment before and went "He's gone!" Which has got to be the single most overused plot beat on the DC-CW shows this season (the most egregious example being Magenta instantly disappearing after the Flash was distracted for literally less than two seconds).
To borrow a nickname from Tor.com's reviewer, the DEO now has its own Balcony of Feelings!
As for Cat, I think she's expected to be back, but I wish she were around more often. I feel the show has lost some of its thoughtfulness without her around to muse philosophically.
I know Flockhart doesn't like to leave her family, but couldn't they, like, have her call up Kara or James on Skype, and film her scenes in LA? I mean, we had a whole season where Clark Kent only showed up via text messages.
The idea of the good guys using a biological weapon rubs me the wrong way. There's a reason the use of such weapons is considered a war crime. I hated it back in the '80s when V: The Final Battle resolved its alien invasion that way.
Besides, what if there are other aliens living in hiding on Earth-1 that we don't know about? And what effect might it have on Hawkman and Hawkgirl, who are kinda sorta part-Thanagarian maybe?
Yeah, Flockhart's role han't been reduced, she's pretty much off the show now, which is a shame.
I didn't know that all the other shows had the same episode title. Supergirl could still have been included given its subject matter.
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The problem with doing something like that is it 100% goes against the reason the character gave for going off - IE She needed to move out of her comfort zone and continue to grow. If she was still so interested in the day to day situation of Catco, she wouldn't have left the position she held there in the first place - so just having her text - or otherwise interject herself back into the day to day things IMO wouldn't really fit. (And yes, I know I'm putting more thought into this then the actual writing staff did.
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This is funny coming from the guy that has argued for pages and pages that having Supergirl set in another universe doesn't limit her potential use in crossovers.
I am curious about M'Egann. Do we know if she registered?
If she registered I believe that is supposed to guarantee her some basic rights. Among those I am assuming is not to be arrested unless she has committed a crime here on Earth. As much as J'Onn hates white Martians, I don't believe the DEO has the right to detain her because of what she is,
And if M'Egann didn't register, what is her status? Would she be considered an undocumented Alien, subject to detainment and deportation (not that it's possible)?
J'Onn wants to lock her away forever, but does he really have the authority to do so?
If she registered I believe that is supposed to guarantee her some basic rights. Among those I am assuming is not to be arrested unless she has committed a crime here on Earth. As much as J'Onn hates white Martians, I don't believe the DEO has the right to detain her because of what she is,
And if M'Egann didn't register, what is her status? Would she be considered an undocumented Alien, subject to detainment and deportation (not that it's possible)?
J'Onn wants to lock her away forever, but does he really have the authority to do so?
I said this elsewhere, but the fault doesn't really lie with The CW's marketing, but with people who have the mindset that something only constitutes as a crossover if it has some big interconnected storyline.
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
And yet, he's arguing it did.
^ No, he's not. He's explaining why "Medusa" was structured the way that it was.
Not necessarily. Seeking new challenges doesn't require completely cutting yourself off from your old life. I mean, she's still in touch with her family, I assume.
And if having her Skype in wouldn't work, then have her appear on TV in-story in some capacity, giving an interview about recent events in National City, say. There must be some way they could shoot material with her in LA and incorporate it into the show.
That didn't stop them with Max Lord last season. This detention isn't necessarily on the up-and-up. Although it could be that M'Gann broke the law by falsely identifying her species when she registered.
As a rule, no, but in those people's defense, the spate of promos has created the impression that it was all one big interconnected whole, with plenty of footage of all the casts interacting, without specifying that the Supergirl episode would be the exception. Although if you looked closely, you could tell that Supergirl was the only character from her show who was interacting with the rest.
The four-show crossover DID start with Supergirl; it's not the marketing's fault that people chose to assume that said pronouncement meant something it didn't.
As a fan of Supergirl, I would have been really disappointed if I watched the series and Alex and J'onn were not there. Seemed like the way this whole thing was advertised might have been a lose lose situation for all.
The only way to describe reactions to Supergirl's episode not being more directly tied to the main Invasion plot - WHINING! LOL
Did you all forget that only a year ago we were all debating whether Supergirl would ever be allowed to crossover with the CW shows??
This is why creators completely disregard fan criticism. It's mostly childish whining which becomes a distracting noise which obscures any legitimate critiques.
Did you all forget that only a year ago we were all debating whether Supergirl would ever be allowed to crossover with the CW shows??
This is why creators completely disregard fan criticism. It's mostly childish whining which becomes a distracting noise which obscures any legitimate critiques.
Y'know, the promos and behind-the-scenes material has shown that Calista Flockhart wasn't going to appear in every episode. I'll never understand why fans can't get this and move on and accept what is being presented. We should all be grateful that we have as large of a cast as we have. 
QFT.
I was having a hard time taking last night's AfterBuzzTV Supergirl after-show discussion seriously at times because the host panelists were, amongst other things, divided on the question of whether or not Supergirl's episode should've been more "connected" to a storyline in which Supergirl is very much an "outsider".
It'd be like knocking "Haunted" for John Constantine not being more involved in the ongoing storyline of Arrow Season 4 and being brought in solely to save Sara's soul. It makes no sense and really doesn't have any merit at all as a criticism.
Sorry for the double-post, but Flash/Arrow producer Todd Helbing just granted Christopher's wish that we get an official designation for Supergirl's Earth (Earth-CBS) by identifying it as "Earth-38" in a BtS interview featurette for the first part of the Invasion crossover.
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Oh come on, to claim that the marketing didn't create an impression that this is a four part epic team up crossover is a bit disingenuous. I agree some people are overreacting about this, but you can't really say that they were wrong to expect a bigger involvement in the crossover based on the promos.
I mean, we're talking about the people who don't usually watch Supergirl here, so they had no idea this was the winter finale and it had a few of its own plot threads to wrap up... I bet most of them didn't know what the hell was going on half the time which probably exacerbated the situation.
Fans can think and feel however they choice. It was almost exactly this time 20 years ago my parents bought our first computer with internet access. It took me a long time to realize I mostly read a lot of fans criticisms for a sense of relief. Relief that it is not my first impulse to overreact and judge everything that is not taylored to my own tastes. Sure I have my own criticisms but I am happy I do not get angry and so worked up as so many people seem to about things we have no control of.
No, In the paragraph I quoted he's explaining why the other three shows are more tightly linked to each other than Supergirl. To whit, shared universe.
Oh, of course! Because Superman debuted in 1938. That's fitting.
I just hope they explain why Barry seemed to completely forget about his visit to Earth-38 just after he got back.
