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Star Wars Rebels Season Three (spoilers)

In the interest of "context", I decided to watch the episodes leading up to Hera's Heroes.

The Holocrons of Fate:

Pros
-Bendu is still cool
-Its nice to see Ezra taken down a peg again, and Kanan is really growing on me
-The Ezra/Kanan plot with the spiders was pretty good
-Even though the holocrons being magic is lame, I liked the story of two devices merging together to give knowledge. I just wish it had been a new Force related item, not a bizarre twisting of what a holocron is.
-I have no idea why Kallus let them go, but I was surprised. Although I was more surprised that the one imperial was demoted to runing a scrap station for failing to catch the Rebels, while Kallus still seems trusted even though he's failed a lot when it comes to capturing the Rebels.

Cons
- Steve Blum being every single background male character is starting to get on my nerves. I like him as a voice actor, but he doesn't have a lot of range and its starting to feel really cheap when everyone from a rebel pilot to a storm trooper is just Steve Blum with sometimes a slightly different (but very recognizable) voice.
-Maul is still unimpressive as a villain, but at least he doesn't have spider legs anymore.
-Why does Maul have goofy looking garbage bots?
-Being reminded of the fake mandalorians/Maul plot from TCW is really irritating
-When did Holocrons become magic? They're recording devices for Sith/Jedi. They're not magic boxes that can access the force and "answer any question"

The Antilles Extraction
Pros
-Seeing an imperial fighter training academy was interesting.
-Sabine wasn't bad.
-The story wasn't bad, and if it hadn't been Wedge who was being extracted I would have liked it a lot more.

Cons
-Wedge was pretty boring. Not terrible or anything, but uninteresting. He wasn't even that good of a pilot.
-Giving Wedge this generic "imperial defector" backstory was lame, and they did nothing different with it.
-Hobbie was a bit annoying, and Rake was just there to get killed.
-The imperial Governor framing her fight with Sabine as imperial vs "mandalorian" made me want the imperial to win, and Sabine mentioning her "clan" was groan inducing.

So, I've seen three Rebels episodes that are admittedly much better then any episodes I saw from the first two seasons, but still have a lot of the regular Rebels issues (a 15 year old being treated too much like an adult, Ezra being over powered, most of the main cast being extremely underdeveloped). Wedge continued the trend of poorly done real SW characters showing up in Rebels (although him being a poor character instead of outright bad is an improvement). But, Kanan is actually a character now, the bendu stuff is interesting and the individual episode plots aren't bad. Next up though, its the one I've really been dreading. The "Thrawn" episode.
 
"The Last Battle" is probably the weakest eisode of this and last season.

It seems to be nothign mroe than some fan wankery of droid fighting under the guise of Rex's mental battle damange, but it's so paper thin it's not even worth the effort. The show has given us more depth than this before, so I expect more from them.

Furthermore I am embarrassed they actually had the gull to make Ezra this genius for pointing out basic logic to both sides, and being some kind of hero for uttering something that surely crossed the mind of the leaders on both side only a BAZILLION TIMES BEFORE.


And all this hype about Thrawn and he's barely done anything, barely talked, and we've really barely delved into the character. Seems a waste to me.
 
I finally got to it.

Hera's Heroes

Pros:
-The story wasn't atrocious (although if Thrawn hadn't been there it would have been complete filler).
-Cham was ok.

Cons:
-Thrawn was really nothing. Just a bland, generic "smart" villain in the little bit he did. He didn't really deduce anything, he basically just read a bit about Twi'leks sometime before the episode and made a very obvious conclusion based off of Hera's lie, a lie that only would have worked because most Imperials are too prejudiced/uncaring to read anything about the culture of the planet they're inhabiting. He's also a lot more obsessive about art, almost attacking someone in a very un-Thrawn show of rage. The rage scene was also really his only important scene that wasn't in the preview clips.
-Putting people's lives in danger to collect a heirloom is really stupid.
-I wish they explained why the Empire cares so much about Ryloth. In the old EU it was because of resources it had, like a weaker (but cheap) alternative to Bacta. Even in the Lords of the Sith book they didn't do a great job of this. Irs mostly just "The Empire conquers everything" when it comes to the reason they're there.
 
"Imperial Supercommandos" is much better than "The Last Battles", but it's got the same problem this season has been giving: five minutes of story stretched out totwenty or so minutes minus commercials.

On the plus side, they're finally getting Sabine character development talked about in interviews.


And this isn't necessarily a complaint about ST:R, but I'm tired of shows were the leader says to eliminate so and so, and the lackey just stands there aiming a weapon and doesn't fire.
 
Why did the bad guy think that threatening Ezra's droid would get him to talk? Most folks in the SW-verse don't seem to consider droids much more than equipment, so how would he have known that the threat would work on Ezra?
 
Watching the credits for "Imperial Supercommandos", I realized we had a little Rome reunion with Kevin McKidd voicing Fen Rau and Ray Stevenson voicing Gar Saxon ;)
 
Evil Twin said:
Watching the credits for "Imperial Supercommandos", I realized we had a little Rome reunion with Kevin McKidd voicing Fen Rau and Ray Stevenson voicing Gar Saxon ;)
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I thought Saxon was Julian Sands until I looked up the credits. They sound pretty similar.
 
Enjoyable Sabine spotlight and a great flying chase sequence. But to my mind, at this point Ezra should easily be able to slice and dice four Mandalorians. Hell, he even seemed oddly reluctant to kill anyone. Which is bizarre because they kill Stormtroopers left and right, and Ezra is flirting with the dark side this year.
 
Mr Light said:
Enjoyable Sabine spotlight and a great flying chase sequence. But to my mind, at this point Ezra should easily be able to slice and dice four Mandalorians. Hell, he even seemed oddly reluctant to kill anyone. Which is bizarre because they kill Stormtroopers left and right, and Ezra is flirting with the dark side this year.
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He's trying to pull back from the dark side, which means he's not going to be quite as powerful as he was when he was listening to the holocron. As has always been said, the dark side brings quick and powerful results but at a cost. The light side is harder, slower but the ultimate results are much greater than any dark sider can even comprehend. So yeah, for now at least Ezra is back on the slow difficult path.

Also from a storytelling POV, it wouldn't do to have Ezra upstaging Sabine in her own story.
 
^Also, weren't they hoping to win over the Mandalorians as allies? Granted, these guys had thrown in with the Empire, but maybe they had some hope of changing their minds.
 
Reverend said:
He's trying to pull back from the dark side, which means he's not going to be quite as powerful as he was when he was listening to the holocron. As has always been said, the dark side brings quick and powerful results but at a cost. The light side is harder, slower but the ultimate results are much greater than any dark sider can even comprehend. So yeah, for now at least Ezra is back on the slow difficult path.

Also from a storytelling POV, it wouldn't do to have Ezra upstaging Sabine in her own story.
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Ezra had a "what have I done?" moment?
 
fireproof78 said:
Ezra had a "what have I done?" moment?
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Pretty much. I mean nobody died but he almost completely botched the Yarma mission, lost the Phantom and his new promotion. That plus his talk with Kanan in 'Holocrons of Fate' seems to indicate he's back on the path of light...for now.
 
He suffered a failure due to his own arrogance about his new powers and would have died if Kanan hadn't saved him. Than later saw that Kanan was better at stuff being calm and at peace rather than Ezra's aggression which almost got them killed.
 
I had question after watching Protector of Concord Dawn, but since they seemed to have followed up on that one I'm just going to ask it here. Is Fenn Rau's name a references to Fenn Shysa?
 
JD said:
I had question after watching Protector of Concord Dawn, but since they seemed to have followed up on that one I'm just going to ask it here. Is Fenn Rau's name a references to Fenn Shysa?
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It wouldn't surprise me if they borrowed the name. I mean it'd be a hell of a coincidence no? Especially considering that comic is I think the first time Mandalore was ever mentioned by name.
Prior to that, Boba in tESB was just supposed to be wearing the armour of the Clone Supercommandos, a relic from the Clone Wars and not representative of any particular culture. Indeed, the line in TCW about Jango not being Mandalorian was actually more consistent with the original concept than the EU's version.
 
did everyone else miss Saturday's episode?

then again it was a bit of a treading water ep and I'm sure Thrawn must wonder how some people managed to make it Admiral given they seem as bright as burnt out lightbulbs.
 
Didn't they already establish earlier that Admiral Konstantine was promoted more because of his connections to the right people than through any kind of skill or intelligence?

I like that Thrawn and Commander Sato share history.
 
Yeah, not very much to say about this one. A fun episode, but nothing really stood out to me.

There was an interesting character beat when Ezra quoted Yoda at the kids. I thought it was a neat way to show that despite the odd misstep he really is learning.

Seeing the YT-2400 was fun of course and I rather think the changes to the old design were improvements. It looks like they scaled it up a little, chopped off the dorsal & ventral cone structures, game it an actual docking port and moved the ramp to somewhere more sensible. Overall it feels much sleeker IMO. If nothing else, it doesn't look like it's about to tip over while landed as the Outrider did.
Also, I may be reading too much into it, but the engine room looked a little bit like the Ebon Hawk's from KotOR.

Other random detail: Apparently Grand Admirals get to personalise their ships. It's easy to miss, but Thrawn's Star Destroyer had a chimera painted on the underside. Sneaky reference to his EU flagship.
 
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