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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Yep. I believe Gerrold even met Heinlein and worked something out, but Heinlein was reportedly very frustrated by it. If I recall correctly. @Harvey probably knows better than I.

@Maurice provided this link about the Heinlein-Gerrold situation about 600 pages back in this thread.

Gerrold...does not come off well.

I wish I could say I was surprised that Gerrold thought he could get away with cashing in on two intellectual properties he does not own, nor hold the license for, but I'm not. In addition to his role in the entire Axanar debacle, Gerrold was getting away with selling an unlicensed sequel script to "The Trouble with Tribbles," at conventions earlier this year, too.

It's no surprise he's fallen in with fan-bilking frauds like Alec Peters and the artist formerly known as Cash Markman these days.
 

@Maurice provided this link about the Heinlein-Gerrold situation about 600 pages back in this thread.

Gerrold...does not come off well.

I wish I could say I was surprised that Gerrold thought he could get away with cashing in on two intellectual properties he does not own, nor hold the license for, but I'm not. In addition to his role in the entire Axanar debacle, Gerrold was getting away with selling an unlicensed sequel script to "The Trouble with Tribbles," at conventions earlier this year, too.

It's no surprise he's fallen in with fan-bilking frauds like Alec Peters and the artist formerly known as Cash Markman these days.
Thank you, to both of you.

I knew I had read it recently and I was troubled by the revelation. I have enjoyed Gerrold's work over the years, having both the "Trials and Tribble-ations" novel adaptation and "Star Wolf" collection. However, I agree that he does not come off well in the incident with Heinlein, made all the more maddening given how generous Heinlein could be. So, it saddens me in a way that I did not expect.
 
Jonathan Lane's rants have me like......... (new blog post below)

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http://fff.trekbloggers.com/2016/10...uling-what-does-it-all-mean-part-4/#more-2433
 
Really good article, Carlos. I'm particularly struck by this: "Lane asserts that willfulness requires reading Peters’ mind and since no one can do that, he has a stronger case."
Peters' has repeatedly stated that he's infringing on the IP in various podcasts. His IGG campaign said that he didn't have the rights to the IP. I'd thing the willfulness is blatant, on his actions and statements.
 
Pretty much all news media these days takes some kind of slant or another.

They were one of the few to be making the claim to be "fair and balanced," even including that in their ad campaigns, while having a distinct slant. Other networks have avoided this by not putting the phrase "fair and balanced" into their marketing materials.
 
I am enjoying, so far at least, reading both points of view, interpretations if we will, of the exact same data presented in juxtaposition by AxaMonitor and Mr. Lane. So far Mr. Lane (that I've noticed anyway) hasn't again devolved into a previous displayed proclivity to demean me for my own and very well researched convictions in this matter. AxaMonitor continues to give me information with clear links to supportive material for it's conclusions that I then immediately research for myself. Mr. Lane gives me insight into his, and others', nearly opposite interpretations of the same data, with lots of examples of why he gets there. I like this. He does continue to sometimes present allusions to unnamed persons, legals & otherwise, who concur with his interpretation which, at least for me, diminishes credibility in his presented evidence the same way the defendant's own use of 'This person, that actor, this group, a lawyer, etc. says, is going to... but I can't say who it is' does. And which does take me back to Mr. Lane's presentation of Mark Largent as being a big fan and supporter the production. (They worked on Stalled Trek: Prelude to Ax'd-We-Are together) and which Mr. Largnet immediately refuted the 'big fan & supporter of the production' in this very thread, stating instead it was an enjoyable 'experience' to work on his parody with Mr. Lane. So unnamed lawyer(s) and such in Mr. Lane's writings will carry no degree of, well anything, to me as he has shown me he will be expansively inaccurate to press a point.

But still, I am enjoying his less hyperbolic and vindictive writings from his own POV and interpretations of each legal maneuvering as this continues to play out.
 
New on AxaMonitor — Examining Axanar's Claims About Infringement and Damages. Does Fan Film Factor Blog‘s Analysis Hold Up to Scrutiny?
FYI - a very tiny aside - at least when I was in law school (which was just about the same time AP was), Intellectual Property wasn't a required class, e. g. it wasn't guaranteed to be on the Bar Examination or made to be a required class by anyone licensing Peters's school, UNC School of Law. However, it might have been required at UNC or by the state of North Carolina.

At Widener, when I was there, the following classes were required:
  • Property (2 semesters) (first year)
  • Contract (2 semesters) (first year)
  • Torts (2 semesters) (first year)
  • Criminal Law (2 semesters) (first year)
  • Civil Procedure (2 semesters) (first year)
  • Legal Methods (2 semesters) (first year)
  • Evidence (2 semesters) (second year)
  • Business Organizations (1 semester) (could be taken any time, but it was the prerequisite to Commercial Paper)
  • Constitutional Law (2 semesters) (second year)
  • Federal Tax (2 semesters) (second year)
  • Professional Responsibility (1 semester) (could be taken any time)
Things have changed at my school and I presume elsewhere, but Intellectual Property was an elective when I was attending, much like Trusts and Estates, Trial Practice, and even Aviation Law.

** The first year workload is very much like the film The Paper Chase, and it's generally when people will drop out if they're going to. Three hours of lecture for all classes but Legal Methods (it was two) and then somewhere between 1 - 3 hours of homework per class per week, for a grand total of around 35 hours, sometimes more if things were really frustrating and hard to understand.
 
Pretty much all news media these days takes some kind of slant or another.
I know, right. I will add that I believe 'reporting on'... from the beginning of time in the days of long long ago... has been presented by people/persons who see the necessity of something that they think needs a light shined on it. Which itself displays a human bias. The degree to which the journalist self-imposes insistence on staying close to provable facts rather than personally 'leading' the facts to some preconceived or desired conclusion is often found to be a rarity.

Being one who often sees the analogous in Star Trek I find myself remembering Capt. Janeway talking to Tuvok when his own highly developed logic, as interpreted by him, told him to act in surrogate in something his captain was prevented from:
"You can use logic to justify almost anything. That's its power - and its flaw."

Journalism, at least to me, does not preclude bias. For sure, how much control bias is allowed in leading evidence to preconceived conclusion rather than following evidence to its own conclusion is something to be vigilantly monitored.
 
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"You can use logic to justify almost anything. That's its power - and its flaw."

That quote right there is at the core of LFIM's cognitive dissonance. His own logic seems right to him (but is warped to nearly everyone else) and is how he's justified damn near everything he's done.
 
I know, right. I will add that I believe 'reporting on'... from the beginning of time in the days of long long ago... has been presented by people/persons who see the necessity of something that need a light shined on it. Which itself displays a human bias. The degree to which the journalist self-imposes insistence on staying close to provable facts rather than personally 'leading' the facts to some preconceived or desired conclusion is often found be a rarity.

Being one who often sees the analogous in Star Trek I find myself remembering Capt. Janeway talking to Tuvok when his own highly developed logic, as interpreted by him, told him to act in surrogate in something his captain was prevented from:
"You can use logic to justify almost anything. That's its power - and its flaw."

Journalism, at least to me, does not preclude bias. For sure, how much control bias is allowed in leading evidence to conclusion is something to be vigilantly monitored.

I'm not a journalist (although I was involved with school papers back in the day), but I think the best way to approach news sources is to read a variety of viewpoints, know which ones are attempting to be more objective and which ones are meant to be subjective (like comparing a regular news source to a talk show), and use critical thinking when examining the results.
 
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