50 Days of Voyager

[Tracy Trek]

It had a sort of dystopian future feel to it which could have been really cool.

One that you skipped over in season 7 called Critical Care also had a dystopian-ish world. Only it had a shortage of medical care and an HMO from hell. It was a Doctor centered episode. At least I don't think it was on your list.

I still think you are making a mistake by not watching every episode. Yes, you didn't have to suffer through some really bad ones like Threshold or Fury for example. But you may have missed some good ones. And I don't think you can get the full experience of watching a series from cherry picking episodes.

 

[Catarina]

I'm quite content cherry picking DS9

 

[Captain Nate]

One that you skipped over in season 7 called Critical Care also had a dystopian-ish world. Only it had a shortage of medical care and an HMO from hell. It was a Doctor centered episode. At least I don't think it was on your list.

I still think you are making a mistake by not watching every episode. Yes, you didn't have to suffer through some really bad ones like Threshold for example. But you may have missed some good ones. And I don't think you can get the full experience of watching a series from cherry picking episodes.

I agree on all your comments. I might go back one day and watch the ones I skipped but for now, this is the next best thing to watching all of them.

 

[Captain Nate]

Day 55 – Homestead

So I guess the Voyager crew really wanted to get rid of Neelix. First, Tuvok convinced him to leave the ship and risk his life fighting for an asteroid. Then, when Neelix survived that ordeal, Janeway persuaded him to take a made up job that does not pay any money and would require him leaving the ship forever. I guess they finally got sick of his cooking and obnoxious personality. So long you slightly less annoying Jar Jar Binks! Enjoy living on an asteroid in the middle of nowhere!

Finale tomorrow when I watch 7x25 Endgame!

 

[The Lonely Man]

Day 55 – Homestead

So I guess the Voyager crew really wanted to get rid of Neelix. First, Tuvok convinced him to leave the ship and risk his life fighting for an asteroid. Then, when Neelix survived that ordeal, Janeway persuaded him to take a made up job that does not pay any money and would require him leaving the ship forever. I guess they finally got sick of his cooking and obnoxious personality. So long you slightly less annoying Jar Jar Binks! Enjoy living on an asteroid in the middle of nowhere!

Finale tomorrow when I watch 7x25 Endgame!

Little harsh, Neelix as a character grew a lot from the irritating little jealous creature he was originally into a someone everyone onboard respected.
Mortal Coil was a good example of this and a highpoint for Neelix.

The decision for Neelix to join The Talaxians on the asteroid made perfect sense I thought, what exactly was he travelling to Earth for ?

Here he encountered (probably) the last of his kind he would ever meet and there was an opportunity for something he had wanted pretty much all his life..... A family.
It would have been more strange had he turned down this opportunity to remain on Voyager.

Reading through this thread it appears you have opted to skip a lot of episodes of Voyager. With that in mind it would maybe be difficult to grasp the emotional resonance of the final scene with Neelix and Tuvok. One of my favourite scenes in the shows history.

 

[Sophie74656]

Day 55 – Homestead

So I guess the Voyager crew really wanted to get rid of Neelix. First, Tuvok convinced him to leave the ship and risk his life fighting for an asteroid. Then, when Neelix survived that ordeal, Janeway persuaded him to take a made up job that does not pay any money and would require him leaving the ship forever. I guess they finally got sick of his cooking and obnoxious personality. So long you slightly less annoying Jar Jar Binks! Enjoy living on an asteroid in the middle of nowhere!

Finale tomorrow when I watch 7x25 Endgame!

Sounds like you didn't really watch this episode.

I think Neelix was better off among his own people, with someone he could love and have a life and family with.

 

[Tracy Trek]

Yes he may have missed episodes where it showed how much the crew cared about Neelix.

OK, I agree that Neelix could be annoying and he probably wasn't the galaxy's greatest cook. But he became part of the Voyager family, the eccentric uncle I think . I would have liked it if he had stayed with the show, but he found some of his own people* who needed his help. It gave him a chance to have a family of his own.

*Actually it kind of strained credibility that this group of Talaxians had made it this far. By this point Voyager in the neighborhood of 30,000 light years or less. They were in relatively (compared to Voyager) slow ships. Talaxia was way back in the 70,000 light year range. This group hadn't been gone so long that they didn't know about Talaxia's war with the Haakonians. Yet somehow they had got that far and had settled there and did all that tunneling into the asteroids. Did they find a wormhole that Voyager somehow missed in the first season?

 

[Sophie74656]

Yes he may have missed episodes where it showed how much the crew cared about Neelix.

OK, I agree that Neelix could be annoying and he probably wasn't the galaxy's greatest cook. But he became part of the Voyager family, the eccentric uncle I think . I would have liked it if he had stayed with the show, but he found some of his own people* who needed his help. It gave him a chance to have a family of his own.

*Actually it kind of strained credibility that this group of Talaxians had made it this far. By this point Voyager in the neighborhood of 30,000 light years or less. They were in relatively (compared to Voyager) slow ships. Talaxia was way back in the 70,000 light year range. This group hadn't been gone so long that they didn't know about Talaxia's war with the Haakonians. Yet somehow they had got that far and had settled there and did all that tunneling into the asteroids. Did they find a wormhole that Voyager somehow missed in the first season?

I always thought he was probably a good cook...for other Talaxians.

 

[stardream]

I always thought he was probably a good cook...for other Talaxians.

That's been a fan theory for a while. Neelix's food tasted good to him- because Talaxian taste required things to be spicier or whatever. If you pay really close attention over the seasons complaints about his food grow less and less and you hear things like 'I like it' or 'it's not half bad'...or B'Elanna smiling at her banana pancakes. (I normally hate that scene but it fits with the subject here).

 

[Captain Nate]

Sounds like you didn't really watch this episode.

I think Neelix was better off among his own people, with someone he could love and have a life and family with.

I watched it, no doubt about that.

 

[Tracy Trek]

Well Harry said he liked the Pleeka Rind casserole. He was a little less enthusiastic about the neon green apple pie, but I think he said it tasted OK. I don't think any of them liked the leola root though, but they ate it anyway.

Good grief, what things he served them sometimes. Alferian hair pasta, which according to him was actual hair.

I thought Neelix gave Torres replicated pancakes.

 

[Captain Nate]

Day 56 – Endgame

This was a very fitting finale for Star Trek Voyager. We had all the favorite elements of the series wrapped into the finale.
1. We had time travel and temporal prime directive, two pillars of Star Trek Voyager.
2. We had Janeway completely ignoring solid advice and Starfleet regulations just to satisfy her own regrets and emotions.
3. We had a number of plot holes which make the episode loss credibility. For example, if Janeway can jump through time, why not jump back to the caretaker and send voyager home before they were stranded in the delta quadrant? Grandma Janeway can stay behind and destroy the caretaker so the ship can go home and no crew members die at all.

Personally I would have preferred this episode if Grandma Janeway realised she had to stop indulging her remorse and regret and trying to fix the past. She failed to send Voyager home and learnt to live with her decisions. Voyager still would get home 23 years later and Grandma Janeway would return to her own time without altering future events. That conclusion would have shown character growth in Muldew.

OR….

I would have enjoyed this episode if it was just a good old fashioned romp that ended with Voyager getting home. No time travel needed.

I have watched 56 episodes and need to cut out 6. I will release my 50 episodes in 50 days final list tomorrow.

 

[stardream]

I thought Neelix gave Torres replicated pancakes.

He may have. I try to avoid that episode.

 

[Sophie74656]

He may have. I try to avoid that episode.

It's one of my favorites. They were indeed replicated.

 

[Sophie74656]

Day 56 – Endgame

This was a very fitting finale for Star Trek Voyager. We had all the favorite elements of the series wrapped into the finale.
1. We had time travel and temporal prime directive, two pillars of Star Trek Voyager.
2. We had Janeway completely ignoring solid advice and Starfleet regulations just to satisfy her own regrets and emotions.
3. We had a number of plot holes which make the episode loss credibility. For example, if Janeway can jump through time, why not jump back to the caretaker and send voyager home before they were stranded in the delta quadrant? Grandma Janeway can stay behind and destroy the caretaker so the ship can go home and no crew members die at all.

Personally I would have preferred this episode if Grandma Janeway realised she had to stop indulging her remorse and regret and trying to fix the past. She failed to send Voyager home and learnt to live with her decisions. Voyager still would get home 23 years later and Grandma Janeway would return to her own time without altering future events. That conclusion would have shown character growth in Muldew.

OR….

I would have enjoyed this episode if it was just a good old fashioned romp that ended with Voyager getting home. No time travel needed.

I have watched 56 episodes and need to cut out 6. I will release my 50 episodes in 50 days final list tomorrow.

So now that you've finished I have a question for you. This wasn't your first time watching Voyager was it?

 

[stardream]

It's one of my favorites. They were indeed replicated.

I could almost like it but I hate the ending. I have the exact same problem with Memorial. Otherwise good episodes with (imho) crap endings.

 

[Sophie74656]

I could almost like it but I hate the ending. I have the exact same problem with Memorial. Otherwise good episodes with (imho) crap endings.

I can agree with that. The ending wasn't great.

 

[Captain Nate]

So now that you've finished I have a question for you. This wasn't your first time watching Voyager was it?

Before my 50 days of Voyager I had only seen Cartaker when it originally aired. The rest was all new to me. I was a TNG and DS9 fan.

 

[Tracy Trek]

Are you going to do a 50 days of Enterprise also?

 

[Catarina]

I could almost like it but I hate the ending. I have the exact same problem with Memorial. Otherwise good episodes with (imho) crap endings.

What was the ending again? Blt episodes aren't as strong as I would like thus are foggy in my memory.