Indeed. That's my point.....in a roundabout way.
Do you think LGBT characters will feature more prominently?
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Yeah, a lot of people just want LBGT characters as window dressing to show how accepting they are. But they really don't want to do anything more. They want props, not actual characters. The gay friend, but that's as far as it goes.
I just watch Beyond for the first and have just watched the "gay scene". Wow, he moves his thumb a bit over his husband's back for FIVE times (maybe four or six times, I was so moved emotionally that I may have miscounted.).
A bold statement!
Not cutting the kiss would have been better.
There is at least one other changeling in "The Search" that looks to be played by an actress. It's hard to tell from the screenshots. The other question being, what's the difference between a Changeling without breasts and one that has a gender neutral appearance?
From their point of view, none.
I just watch Beyond for the first and have just watched the "gay scene". Wow, he moves his thumb a bit over his husband's back for FIVE times (maybe four or six times, I was so moved emotionally that I may have miscounted.
A bold statement!
I wonder if the kiss and/or other scenes that explore Sulu's marriage, will be included in the DVD/Blu Ray as a deleted scene?
Well, I will never hold the dvd in my hands but I'm sure there will be detailed reviews soon. But they should not have that under "deleted scenes". What kind of picture does that make?
Anyway: So, do they really claim they deleted the kiss out of fear of chinese censorship? Hhhm, what better way to show the chinese audience how decadent the West is (or other countries nearby) than a gay kiss.
Anyway: So, do they really claim they deleted the kiss out of fear of chinese censorship? Hhhm, what better way to show the chinese audience how decadent the West is (or other countries nearby) than a gay kiss.
You must remember this
A kiss is just a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by
And when two lovers woo
They still say, "I love you"
On that you can rely
No matter what the future brings
As time goes by
Moonlight and love songs
Never out of date
Hearts full of passion
Jealousy and hate
Woman needs woman
And man must have his mate
That no one can deny
it's still the same old story
A fight for love and glory
A case of do or die
The world will always welcome lovers
As time goes by
A kiss is just a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by
And when two lovers woo
They still say, "I love you"
On that you can rely
No matter what the future brings
As time goes by
Moonlight and love songs
Never out of date
Hearts full of passion
Jealousy and hate
Woman needs woman
And man must have his mate
That no one can deny
it's still the same old story
A fight for love and glory
A case of do or die
The world will always welcome lovers
As time goes by
If it were because they were afraid of Chinese censorship, I can see why since it's such a major film market now. Most movies actually depend on it being a hit there to be considered successful. This is one of the things that hurt the Ghostbusters reboot. By why not make a different cut? I wouldn't be surprised if that were part of it and the rest was trying to keep the movie interesting to teenage boys which is the largest film audience in the US right now.Well, I will never hold the dvd in my hands but I'm sure there will be detailed reviews soon. But they should not have that under "deleted scenes". What kind of picture does that make?
Anyway: So, do they really claim they deleted the kiss out of fear of chinese censorship? Hhhm, what better way to show the chinese audience how decadent the West is (or other countries nearby) than a gay kiss.
I was having a post from above in mind which said they had different excuses for cutting the sence.
As for the chinese market: I have read that most of the money movies make in China stays in China anyway but I don't know for sure.
If I look at the scene in a nasty way: if there is no welcome kiss after an obviously long time doesn't it tell the audience that gay people still can't kiss each other in the 23rd century?
If I had seen this as a kid before my coming out I would have understood it in that way I guess.
Maybe Sulu's husband is a bit angry that he didn't introduce him to the captain or his crewmates.
After you have a kid, you stop trying for a little while.
Or because she identified as female.
The Founders were solids in the past, that why she had "bumps."
The female founder was Voltron.
85 litres of random goo, collected and bound without any previous predisposition to identify as a group, then told by the link to work together as an individual for a limited duration of time until her mission is achieved.
85 litres of random goo, collected and bound without any previous predisposition to identify as a group, then told by the link to work together as an individual for a limited duration of time until her mission is achieved.
Or agreeing to a 5 year dangerous mission away from his daughter? lol
Yeah the censorship thing is annoying, but I don't see it ending that soon. At least not for big bidget movies that have to pander to the delicate sensibilities of the audience.
If Polygamy is legal in the 23rd century, Sulu could have a husband and child on every Starbase.
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