However Matt Jefferies who actually was an aviation engineer (and a WW2 pilot) didn't want any kind of aircraft wings (or any flaps/ailerons/slats) for the Enterprise's nacelle pylons.
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However Matt Jefferies who actually was an aviation engineer (and a WW2 pilot) didn't want any kind of aircraft wings (or any flaps/ailerons/slats) for the Enterprise's nacelle pylons.
I recall reading that. Well, we really screwed the pooch on that one a long time ago... what with not making any SF vessels aerodynamic or given the appearance that they could glide or cruise through atmosphere. I think the designs started looking more aircraft like in DS9 and went from there (not counting alien craft).
LOL!
Matt Jefferies didn't "screw the pooch" at all. Quite the opposite. He put serious thought into everyone of his designs and especially the original Enterprise. His sound reasoning was that a faster-than-light starship that is built in space, that only operates in space, that has shuttlecraft and transporters, has no need for any unnecessary aerodynamic design elements. It's design will only influenced by warp field geometries. The only part of the starship that could land on a planet in a case of emergency is the saucer section of course. And guess what? Matt Jefferies thought of that too and that's why he made the saucer aerodynamic!LOL!
No, no no... don't take me the wrong way.. I didn't mean that Jefferies screwed up the design, moreso that we, those that designed the ships after him starting veering away from his concept and putting more aerodynamic features into Federation ships. Heck, even Probert did this to a minor extent with the aft section of the engineering hull and pylons on the Galaxy class.
I totally get Jefferies logic in his original design, similar to how he thoughtfully made the Constitution class' pylons so uncharacteristically thin.
But when you look at the more recent designs of Fed ships, the aerodynamic features are there... think of the Scout ship from Insurrection, the Aeroshuttle, even Voyager (admittedly, it was designed as an atmo-capable ship from the start), and the Defiant have characteristics of atmospheric capable vessels.
If anything, I was trying to imply that we have gotten away from the original concept behind starships in the 23-25th century. One exception I can think of without researching is the Enterprise-J... the noodle thin, spindly pylons holding onto allegedly space-time folding nacelles clearly invokes an other-worldly, far futuristic level of tech.
Oh, OK. I didn't understand your previous post then. Thank you for clarifying.
Yes, the Voyager was designed (both in-universe and in real world) to be landing capable so it's justifiable to have a more aerodynamic design. But from a real world designer point-of-view I understand that when you design a starship and need to put details it's easier to just draw aircraft-like flight control surfaces on the nacelle pylons and be done with it.
I highly doubt it.. but probably something similar. That Charleston Refit is too TNG-y. The colors, the deflector design, shape of the nacelles...not TOS era at all. But the overall "bodyplan" looks good, and would be era appropriate.
OMG! Could this be the updated model they'll be using? 
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They sure addressed some of the fans' concerns. And it does look that it belongs in the (pre-)TOS era more. But I don't know… something looks slightly off…
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They sure addressed some of the fans' concerns. And it does look that it belongs in the (pre-)TOS era more. But I don't know… something looks slightly off…
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Stop with the stupid misleading posts/links. They weren't funny the first time, they aren't funny now.OMG! Could this be the updated model they'll be using?
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They sure addressed some of the fans' concerns. And it does look that it belongs in the (pre-)TOS era more. But I don't know… something looks slightly off…
Well, I thought it was funny, witty and smart and I congratulate myself for coming up with it!
Cheers!
Considering it was already done in the very creation of this thread, you might want to reassess.
Maybe… here's a crazy thought… that's why I placed it here? Even going as far as using the exact same phrase as the first post?
And? That should have given you even more pause into thinking it was "funny, witty, and smart", considering the response to the original post.Maybe… here's a crazy thought… that's why I placed it here? Even going as far as using the exact same phrase as the first post?
Now that you've mentioned it and I had the time to compare them again I do reassess. I find mine hilarious, entertaining and brilliant! Bravo!!!
Well, I thought it was funny, witty and smart and I congratulate myself for coming up with it!
Cheers!
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